UPenn for Undecided

<p>Hey all,</p>

<p>I’ve been seeing a lot of people who want to go to UPenn and they have 2200+ SAT’s, 800 SAT II’s and crazy extracurriculars.
This all just baffles me…I really loved UPenn the moment I visited the school and have since then but I’m no where near their levels and even at their levels people tell them they can’t get in?</p>

<p>I’m a rising undecided senior but I want to go to CAS because it’s broader. I’ve also heard CAS is the least competitive of the rest, Wharton being the most. Are there any other schools withing UPenn that would be beneficial for an Undecided?</p>

<p>I have a
3.8/93.39 overall GPA
90 in Freshman year
92 in Sophmore
98.46 in Junior year</p>

<p>My SAT is
CR 580
Math 710
Writing 600</p>

<p>SAT II
Math I 750
Math II 740
Planning on taking a Chem SAT II soon</p>

<p>AP’s
AP Calc AB
AP Phys
Alg2/Precalc(had a 7 point curve so it’s considered an AP)</p>

<p>Honors
Geo
Chem
Phys</p>

<p>EC
Math League
ISA (Integrated Science Association)
Student Council
Guitar Classes(Outside of School)
Art classes(Outside of School)
Japanese Classes(Outside of School)
Get Up and Go Volunteering
Senator Joe Addabo volunteering</p>

<p>Known Languages
English
Chinese
Japanese</p>

<p>I plan to send in art pieces to display my love and creativity because that was my original intended major until my parents turned it down for not being able to support myself with it. </p>

<p>I also plan to do ED.</p>

<p>When I see what those others have done I just lose all confidence. Is it impossible? I’ve heard of people with amazing SAT scores being turned down and admissions office saying they look at everything holistically but how much of that is really true?
Do I have no chance?</p>

<p>You definitely need to pump the SATs to at least a 2100. Normally with unhooked applicants, a 2200 would be standard.</p>

<p>If I’m unable to reach the 2100 would my chances be near impossible?</p>

<p>I don’t like being blunt when someone is passionate about a college, but Penn is a long shot for you. Your grades are good, but unless your high school offers APs only in calculus and physics, your coursework is not as rigorous as that of most successful applicants. Your SAT scores in writing and especially CR will hurt you quite a bit, and your extracurriculars are average. Honestly, I think a deferral is the most optimistic outcome you could expect. I say this as a warning, not to be mean. </p>

<p>If you insist on applying ED to Penn, I strongly recommend also applying to at least one other less selective college through early action or rolling admissions. It is VERY good to have an acceptance letter in hand early in the year. Depending on your financial situation, somewhere like Tulane, Santa Clara, Rhodes, Miami, Northeastern, etc. might fit you quite nicely. See this list:</p>

<p>[College</a> Lists / US Schools with Early Action Plans](<a href=“College Lists Wiki / US Schools with Early Action Decision Plans”>College Lists Wiki / US Schools with Early Action Decision Plans)</p>

<p>Most of the early deadlines are either November 1 or November 15, so be aware there’s not much time.</p>

<p>Penn has four options: CAS, Engineering, Wharton, and Nursing.</p>

<p>The admissions committee is way ahead of you. Penn does NOT like applicants who choose one school while intending to transfer after admission. If you get into a school you must spend your first year in that school. Internal transfers, especially to Wharton, can be especially difficult.</p>

<p>Engineering and Nursing may take fewer students, but they’re self-selecting. You need to be able to show aptitude and interest to be a competitive candidate.</p>

<p>Thanks A lot but for Liberal arts/undecided would SEAS be better? Is it less less or more competitive? My other earlies are notre dame, and northeastern. I was thinking either UPenn or BC for REA or ED and I like UPenn a lot more because I haven’t been able to find anything on youtube or videos in general about campus and life at BC.</p>

<p>What are my chances for each?</p>

<p>Look up their admission statistics on College Navigator or the school’s website. The Common Data Set usually has the most detailed info.</p>

<p>Agree with above posters, Penn is definitely a large reach for you, especially with your low SAT scores. Penn applicants generally have around 700+ in each section</p>