UPENN v. NORTHWESTERN

<p>Hey guys.</p>

<p>I know that this seems like a dumb question and I don’t wanna sound like one of those people who are like, well i like harvard but i also like princeton and yale, blah blah blah.</p>

<p>Anyways, I am deciding betwen the communications school at UPenn and Medill at Northwetern. I know that Northwestern is great at journalism, but I feel like Penn is just a better school over all. I’ve never even visited UPenn so it’d be a huge leap of faith if i did choose to go there.</p>

<p>Any advice?</p>

<p>In your case Northwestern University is clearly better than Penn as the Medill School of Journalism is regarded as the best in the country and has an outstanding reputation worldwide. The School of Communications at Northwestern is also regarded by many as the nation’s best. If you enroll at Medill, you can easily double major in the College of Arts & Sciences. Penn is in an urban area of West Philadelphia, while Northwestern enjoys one of the country’s best settings on the shores of Lake Michigan–including two beaches on campus–and merges into the upscale shopping & dining area of Evanston which offers quick & easy access to Chicago’s Miracle Mile, Navy Pier, entertainment & downtown. SAT I scores are nearly identical, but Northwestern’s endowment is a bit healthier at $7+ billion although the two are close. It is incorrect to state that Penn is the better school overall–unless you can clearly distinguish between schools like Princeton & Yale. For journalism & communications the choice is clear as would the choice be for a business major. As you have never visited Penn, I strongly encourage you to do so as the settings are very different from one another. FYI Penn borders a fairly rough area.</p>

<p>Medill @ Northwestern FTW unless you absolutely want a job in the City of Brotherly love upon graduation…just kidding…</p>

<p>A wise dean of communications at another competing school explained it this way,
“Penn is a research institution and their comm dept focuses on research; if you want a PhD in comm, then Penn is the place to be…If you want experience, internships and training to be employed in the communications field then Medill@Northwestern, Annenberg@USC and Newhouse@Syracuse are your three top picks…Just choose which part of the country you want to end up in…”</p>

<p>thanks for the responsese!</p>

<p>rodney- i got accepted at USC annenberg as well! haha</p>

<p>okay. I was leaning northwestern but that gives me reassurance.</p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>dietcoke14: Good Luck! My d is choosing between Newhouse, Annenberg and Vanderbilt…(Yea, I know weird 3rd choice, but she really wanted nice weather…)</p>

<p>One thing to keep in mind: while none of the Ivy League schools has an undergraduate journalism or communications school (at Penn you’d technically be a student in the College of Arts and Sciences, although taking courses in the Annenberg School), their graduates do extremely well in obtaining positions in journalism and communications. News organizations and communication firms appreciate the quality, breadth, and depth of the educations undergrads receive at the Ivies and other top schools (Stanford, Duke, etc.) that don’t include journalism/communications schools, and hire them accordingly. Illustrative of this is the following statement about Penn’s student newspaper:</p>

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<p>[The</a> Daily Pennsylvanian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Pennsylvanian]The”>The Daily Pennsylvanian - Wikipedia)</p>

<p>But I second the recommendation that you visit both schools, and don’t just rely on statements you may read or hear, such as that “Penn borders on a fairly rough area.” These kinds of generalizations don’t really do justice to a school’s campus, its “feel,” its surrounding neighborhood, or the city in which it’s located.</p>

<p>Yes, visit the campuses, please.</p>

<p>I second 45’s comments on the Daily Pennsylvanian. It is an award-winning paper, easily among the best student newspapers in the country. The Daily Pennsylvanian was the focus of a Newsweek article: [College</a> Papers Grow Up | Newsweek.com](<a href=“College Papers Grow Up”>College Papers Grow Up)</p>

<p>It is the opinion of this hopelessly biased Penn student that Penn is an overall better school and between the College of Arts & Sciences, the Annenberg School, the Daily Pennsylvanian, and the Wharton School, will get you far in journalism as well as life.</p>

<p>And speaking of writing, Penn also has the Kelly Writers House, an actual Victorian house on campus devoted to writing of all types, which is an unparalleled extracurricular resource for undergrads and was recently the subject of an article in the New York Times:</p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/education/05writers.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/education/05writers.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Here’s the Kelly Writers House web site:</p>

<p>[Kelly</a> Writers House](<a href=“http://writing.upenn.edu/wh/]Kelly”>Kelly Writers House)</p>

<p>Well I guess then it’s a Tudor, not a Victorian ;)</p>

<p>^ It ain’t a Tudor (the NY Times notwithstanding), it’s a Gothic style Victorian:</p>

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<p>[Virtual</a> Tour of Penn’s Campus: Kelly Writers House](<a href=“http://www.upenn.edu/admissions/tour/tourstop.php?stop=19]Virtual”>http://www.upenn.edu/admissions/tour/tourstop.php?stop=19)</p>

<p>You can’t always trust the Times. :)</p>

<p>Well regardless of what they call it, it exists and is awesome.</p>

<p>Come to Penn, we write good!</p>

<p>^ You write REAL good.</p>

<p>I’m also looking into the Communications field but I easily chose Penn over Northwestern and USC’s communications schools (which I got accepted to) because it’s widely known that students often change majors when they actually get into college… so I don’t want to be stuck at a school where it’s prestigious for Communication dept, but not as well-rounded.</p>

<p>I just visited Penn and fell in love with it, so my decision has been made.</p>

<p>^ It must have been Spring Fling. ;)</p>

<p>Congrats on your decision. Great analysis–and choice!</p>

<p>Woohoo! Congratulations and welcome to Penn.</p>