<p>hey guys, ok i really need your help now!</p>
<p>before i got into berkeley i took summer classes here (like 2 years ago) n’ f**ked it up b/c i just went to get some college experience n’ for fun so didnt care. but actually that GPA is counted as part of my berkeley GPA after i got in. so wondering if there is anyway i can remove that part of GPA (such as an academic renewal ?)</p>
<p>PLEASE HELP!!! thanks</p>
<p>I don’t think it’s possible. Nevertheless, if you do well once you get here, graduate schools and others won’t give a damn about what happened even during frosh year, let alone the summer before.</p>
<p>wait, graduate schools don’t care about freshmen year grades? is this true? (I’m hoping this is true!)
I don’t think there’s a way to get rid of those class grades, they’ll stay as part of your overall gpa, but don’t worry… if it’s just a couple classes, you can make it up by doing well in the rest of your college years. I doubt they’ll give much importance to it if you mention you took them during highschool, if they ask about it.</p>
<p>Grad schools DO look at your freshmen grades…they look at all 4 years, especially Law and Medical schools.</p>
<p>^Umm… Law and Medical schools are not graduate schools, they are professional schools.</p>
<p>It is true that some graduate schools do not look at frosh and soph grades. For example, if I apply to IB for graduate school (something I probably will end up doing), they look at my GPA for my last two years.</p>
<p>I don’t know how universal this is though</p>
<p>@anon5524485: Is that rule relatively true for Engineering graduate schools? :D</p>
<p>thanks guys!
i’m just so worried!
my frd from a JC said they have something called academic renewal, which can remove one semester’s GPA n’ units n’ he personally did it, so just wondering if berkeley has it too. cross my fingers</p>
<p>No, it’s Berkeley. You should’ve known better when you take any college class, from a four-year institution or community college or otherwise. The grades will stay with you forever, I’m pretty sure.</p>
<p>law school and medical school are, in fact, “graduate school”. </p>
<p>There are differences between law, medical, and business school admissions and admission to PhD programs, but they are all “graduate school”</p>
<p>No I didn’t mean to give the impression grad schools don’t look at frosh grades, but quite frankly, it’s not as important to them. I also do not include “medical school and law school” under the category graduate school, I call those professional schools. We can afford to quit bickering about terminology and just clarify if need be.</p>
<p>The reason for this distinction is that most professional schools look for good GPA, maybe some extracurriculars, high standardized tests, and internships. So you kind of have as much of a chance to do good stuff for them in the first year as later. The grad schools will hardly care if you have a bad frosh GPA but an upper division GPA that’s high, along with research experience. This is not a guess, I am sure of it. You can also make a note of this fact in your application if you’re nervous, although I would not belabor the point at all.</p>
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<p>No they are not. There is a difference between graduate school and professional school.
Graduate school is for people who are academically driven (i.e. they want to become a professor), medical/law school are for people are professionally driven (i.e. they want to become a doctor/lawyer/etc.)</p>
<p>^^ The spirit of that point is definitely correct, though plenty of people go to graduate school because they are academically driven (i.e. love research and such) but do not aim to become professors. The path to getting a professorship can be something many consider unwanted, and they’d rather just enjoy the 5-6 years of the Ph.D. program instead and then go on to other career choices.</p>
<p>^I don’t know about math, the physical sciences, and engineering, but in biology the key way to be able to do your own research is to become a professor. Of course you could work for a research lab with a BA/BS, but if you wanted to be doing your own research and get published you generally need a Ph.D</p>
<p>Also @Grumpster, in common parlance, no one ever describes medical school as graduate school</p>
<p>In math it’s even harder to do research without being a professor. But the point is that many who love research positions don’t go for them because the phase of postdocing and uncertainty as to whether one will ever get a professorship one would actually like to have can be so great that it’s just not worth it at times. Don’t get me wrong, if someone told me I could be a professor of mathematics at Berkeley, I’d take it before they could begin taking their next breath. It’s just nobody tells you “Do this, and you’ll make it” – so while graduate school can be terrific fun, not everyone wants to risk continuing along the road of academia; because graduate schools pay for you, albeit not much, and you don’t usually have a family to support then. Not so at the stage where you’re trying to get tenure as a professor. </p>
<p>Else, a huge portion of my dad’s friend circle, and including him, probably would be professors, since they’re academics/intellectuals at heart.</p>
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fer reals? That sounds good.</p>
<p>OP: it sucks, I know how you feel. But they won’t remove it. They won’t even remove my ‘late drop’ of a 198 class for a 98 class, because the CCN I received for my Decal was upper division and not lower division. I had to go through an appeal process and all that, and lost $15.</p>
<p>hey
my problem is almost similar. It’ll be great if i can get some advice in my situation.
so i have a 2.9 freshman year gpa , i messed up some classes because im an intl student and the transition was really hard for me and i was studying engineering , something i did not like , but then i transferred to Geophysics. I now have much more focus and i know if i work my ass off I can get those A’s till I graduate. so do you think i just MIGHT have a chance to get into the top notch programs like stanford / caltech /UCLA / umm and harvard. lol , i might sound stupid but i plan to get involved in research and stuff a lot a pep my resume up and try trumping my bad freshman year gpa.
but still i just want to know for what its worth :(</p>