<p>Really? Which writer?</p>
<p>Barrons actually considers himself one of the leading writers on colleges by virtue of nonsense posts on CC.</p>
<p>I believe it was Jay Mathews. You can check it for me if you wish.</p>
<p>At least my posts are typically facts.</p>
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<li>Can’t find it.</li>
<li>Doesn’t matter, that is one of the worst analogies ever. Patients don’t choose a hospital to go to. If I pass out outside Pittsburgh, I’m not flying to goddang California to go to the best hospital I can.
Absolutely NOTHING about patients/hospitals and top students/colleges makes sense. </li>
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<p>How can you disregard the simplest concepts of Economics? The students make the college and if BBV (whatever college you used) continued to get Harvard students for a decade or so, you can bet your arse that BBV will rise considerably in rankings and become a top school.</p>
<p>Here it is–Loren Pope–well known around here. I found it in about 30 seconds. </p>
<p>Loren Pope
Edition: Paperback
Price: $10.20 </p>
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<p>19 used & new from $9.15 </p>
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<p>A good book for prospective students, but not perfect, January 21, 2005
Full disclosure: I attended one of the big famous public institutions the author disparages while my girlfriend attended one of the smaller liberal arts college profiled in the book. </p>
<p>I have some mixed feelings after reading “Colleges…” This book provides a welcomed and much-needed balance against the cacophony from US News and World Report with its emphasis on rankings and selectivity. It gives good profiles of overlooked schools that could very well give certain students a better education than any Ivy ever could. Prospective college students should keep an open mind and consider all schools to find one that will provide an environment to bring out their best–whether it is an Ivy or a “no-name” school. One of the best lines from the book: Judging a college by its selectivity or the quality its student body is like judging a hospital by the quality of the patients it admits.</p>
<p>Still one of the worst analogies ever. “like judging a hospital by the quality of the patients it admits.”</p>
<p>Hospitals don’t admit patients. </p>
<p>I can go to any hospital I want. See how the analogy is seriously flawed?</p>
<p>You are missing the entire point. The point is it is the faculty and facilities= (doctors/equipment in the hospital) that are important.</p>
<p>Here’s another essay with a similar analogy.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.aarweb.org/profession/vtlc/articles/Carnegie06.asp[/url]”>http://www.aarweb.org/profession/vtlc/articles/Carnegie06.asp</a></p>
<p>So you think if I hire the best faculty with my billion dollars and hire idiots and people with 800 avg SATs and 2.0 GPAs, my college will be a top college and recruiters/companies will hire my grads? </p>
<p>Do you really believe this?</p>
<p>Have you ever been a tutor? Can you show me anyone who can guarantee he can teach ANYONE to get a 2400 on the SATs? </p>
<p>Hospitals are not TRYING to teach patients how to save themselves. There is no connection at a hospital like there is between a Professor and a Student at a college.</p>
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<p>You forgot:</p>
<p>Wisconsin #1 state in Cheese Production
Wisconsin #1 state with people who wear Cheese Hats</p>
<p>Also, make sure you have that huge laundry list ready to pull out everytime you need to “impress” someone with how great Wisconsin is…</p>
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<p>You can just say you went to Harvard.</p>
<p>I don’t need to impress. Those like Slipper and yourself seem threatened when anyone suggests there are other good schools in the world.</p>
<p>I have worked with many people who went to Harvard and other Ivy schools. Thankfully most of them were nice people.</p>
<p>If you hire the best faculty and have great facilities, you won’t be stuck with the dregs of students.
Would your 2400 SAT friends still be happy at BCC if the profs are the same dolts that are there now?</p>
<p>If it’s such a horrible analogy, I wonder why US News ranks hospitals… :rolleyes:</p>
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<p>Threatened? Absolutely not.</p>
<p>Do I feel compelled to do my part in countering smear campaigns, disinformation and/or misinformation? Absolutely.</p>
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<p>As long as your aspirations stop at flipping burgers at McDonald’s I guess you don’t need to. Unfortunately, SOCIETY attaches a value to nearly everything from an education (i.e. where you went to school) to the car you drive - while I don’t think it’s “right” to do so, at the same time, I don’t make the rules and I’m certainly not going to go around in life pretending they don’t exist.</p>
<p>Don’t worry, not everyone can go to Harvard (hence part and parcel the value attached to going there) - and not everyone can drive a luxury car or shop at Bergdorf’s either - frankly, it’s not for everyone either.</p>
<p>Society stops putting much weight on where you went to college when you actually get a job and have a track record. It really is rarely discussed in the business world.</p>
<p>Okay whatever makes you feel better for going to UW. </p>
<p>Your nonsensical posts alone show that it matters where you go to college.</p>
<p>I rarely let posters get my goat (bonus points to whoever knows where that phrase comes from!), but that’s just plain wrong ATCA. I have been told by numerous professionals during my search for an internship this summer that once you get your first job, your college becomes much less important. </p>
<p>How many of you actually know where you doctor went to undergrad- or med school, for that matter?</p>
<p>Furthermore, actually take the time to check where professors at top colleges did their undergrad. For example, Yale’s biology department. </p>
<p>MIT
University of Washington-Seattle
University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Harvard
University of Virginia
University of Rhode Island
Iowa State University
Colby College
Cornell
Millsaps College
Wesleyan University
University of California-San Diego
Dalhousie University
Syracuse University
SUNY Albany
University of Cape Town
University of Rochester
University of Vermont
…etc.</p>
<p>Hmm…two Ivies and MIT. I guess it matters where you go to college after all. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>University of Wisconsin is more prestigious than some privates like, say, Carnegie Mellon, but I wouldn’t put it with your Harvards or Yales.</p>
<p>Actually it matters alot. Even after my grad degree I get asked where I went to college often. Then more importantly is the network factor. My peers and friends are all incredibly intelligent and successful, and not only do we socialize together to an extent that goes far beyond watching a football game, we also connect each other to jobs. Having such talented friends is amazing, I went out to LA for half of last summer and contacing alums in the entertainment industry wasn’t superficial, it was natural. I knew a person who knew a person who knew a person, etc.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.dartmouthentertainment.com%5B/url%5D”>www.dartmouthentertainment.com</a> will give you an idea of what I mean. And it happens in every industry. Do you care where your doctor went to college? Not really. That isn’t the point. The point is that a strong network puts you among the movers and shakers. </p>
<p>I honestly learned nothing that really enhanced my capabilities during my MBA. But I got access to ANOTHER network. And trust me the percentage of movers and shakers from Brown vs. Wisconsin is tremendous.</p>
<p>So no, for a great majority of students you don’t only go to college for the professors. You got for the network and the overall experience, this is almost more important. Also, the schools like wisconsin have so many TAs you don’t even meet the professors. Dartmouth’s anthro dept gave 25% of its majors thesis research grants averaging $5K. Trust me, that gets you into a top grad school more than having to make an appointment so the professor knows your name at Wisconsin.</p>
<p>I agree slipper. Uwisconsin is more like a community college.</p>