<p>Think of it this way: in 1997 Brown was 8ish and Penn was 14ish. Choosing between equal schools based on a non-scientific ranking epitomizes short term thinking.</p>
<p>University of Miami will be ranked 53rd.</p>
<p>duke+washu=overrated</p>
<p>Anyone who has been to schools like Cornell, Penn, or Duke quickly comes to realize the luxury of being ranked as “top fifteen” schools simply by virtue of being private schools. If not for flaws in the US News methodology, such as the use of alumni giving statistics or inflated methods of calculating SAT averages, these second-tier private schools would, rightfully, be ranked lower.</p>
<p>The top public universities in the country, such as UCLA (University of California, Los Angeles), UC Berkeley, and the University of Virginia, should all be ranked at least ten spots higher than they are. </p>
<p>UCLA receives more applications than any other school in the country – and turns away more applicants than any other school in the country – largely because of its strong academics and excellent resources. And yet this university isn’t even in the top ten on US News’s scale? Major public universities deserve to recognition they’ve earned.</p>
<p>Ummm…that’s because UCLA’s yield is horrible. UCLA is much easier to get into than all of the schools you mentioned. They aren’t higher than any top 15 in acceptance rate or SAT averages, funny how you selectively mention certain statistics. The UCLA reputation isn’t close to those schools in most of the world.</p>
<p>Alumni giving is only 5% of the calculation and besides that, its honestly very helpful into understand which schools alumni feel connected to. </p>
<p>UCLA in the top ten is laughable.</p>
<p>^ Agreed. UCLA has to compete with UVA, Cal, and Umich first before it even considers a rise in rank. It might even fall into 26-28.</p>
<p>In noticing someone’s prediction (which is to me is utterly useless in the first place, especially when you don’t know how the formula will change) that Dartmouth & CalTech will tie for #6 made me realize just how ridiculous the USN&WR setup is where these two could be tied, but that Dartmouth and Williams (which are a lot more similar and because of a lot more overlap would be a much more useful comparison) cannot be compared. I think it makes a lot more sense to have such specialized schools (MIT, CalTech, RPI, WPI, etc) to have their list and have the other national universities and LACs compared on the same list. Does anyone know why they don’t do it this way?</p>
<p>Lol, makes sense to me! Truthfully a broad rank is difficult.</p>
<p>Makes more sense to me, but what would qualify a university to be in the LAC/Uni hybird area? Some sort of publication per faculty formula?</p>
<p>USN&WR always comes out with a massive book each year that specifies each list. I know that they had separate lists for engineering, lacs, etc. It is much more extensive than the one that is printed in the magazine and also MUCH more helpful. I mean, it’s a massive book. They also have descriptions of each college that made the top 50 or so. So, there’s a lot more to the report than the magazine.</p>
<p>no matter what, HYPSM + Caltech = always rank in top 10!</p>
<p>what do you guys think will happen to the three DC schools (Georgetown,GW, and American) ?</p>
<p>ihateCA’s list of COMPLETELY OVERRATED schools
-UCs (including UCLA, Berkeley)
-WUStL (11)
-MIT (6?!?!?!!?!)
-CalTech (6 or something)
-Duke (5 ***)
-Johns Hopkins (13?!?!?!!?)
-Others…I don’t remember off my head.</p>
<p>ihateCA’s list of COMPLETELY UNDERRATED schools
-Brown (13?!!?!?!!?)
-NYU (37?!!?!!?!)
-Tufts (27?!?!!!?)
-Northeastern (below 100?!?!!?!)
-Michigan (25?!!?!!?)
-UVA (22?!?!!?!)
-Others…I just can’t think of them off of my head.</p>
<p>The ranks are approximates. I don’t recall exactly which was ranked what.</p>
<p>lol, Cal and UCLA being overrated on the USNWR is pretty laughable.</p>
<p>is there a link for the UC news 2007 college rankings?</p>
<p>These rankings are absurd. Good schools are unique and should remain that way (except for Princeton, which needs to get over itself).</p>
<p>Forcing schools to conform to an abstract scientific concept of what a good school ought to be will only serve to steamroll the quirks that make college fun.</p>
<ol>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>CIT</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Dunke</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
</ol>
<p>my predictions…</p>
<p>Yale could go numero uno, who knows…</p>
<p>umm ihateca how is caltech underrated… it has the second highest average SAT combined score in the country (harvey mudd has highest)</p>
<p>1.Princeton
that’s all lol</p>
<p>“1. Princeton
2. Yale
3. Harvard
4. Columbia
5. CIT
6. MIT
7. Stanford
8. Dunke
9. Penn
10. Northwestern”</p>
<p>do we ever use the term “CIT” before? no…I believe we call it Caltech. CIT sounds cool also; why don’t they (or do they ever) call it CIT rather than Caltech?</p>