<p>anonamous-I said CalTech was OVERRATED.</p>
<p>UVA, Michigan and Berkeley need to be in top 20, or even top 15.</p>
<p>Berkeley is a top 15 school for sure</p>
<p>My Predictions</p>
<p>1.Princeton
2.Yale
2.Harvard
4.Stanford
4.Upenn
6.Duke
6.MIT
8.Caltech
9.Columbia
10.Brown</p>
<p>i agree, uc berkeley should be a top 15 school. at the graduate level it is clearly a top 5 school.</p>
<p>To me, there’s no way Northwestern > Dartmouth & Brown.</p>
<p>I also wouldn’t say MIT is overrated at #6 or UVA is underrated at #22. I do agree that Tufts should be a fair bit higher than it is. At the undergrad level, are JHU & Tufts really that much different? They seem pretty comparable to me in a lot of ways. At the very least, I wouldn’t say it’s a 13 vs 27 difference. Maybe more like a 15 vs 18 difference.</p>
<p>I think that Berkeley and Michigan should both be in at least top 15. I dont know why I just get the feeling that the US News ranking discriminate public universities</p>
<p>publics dont fare well because of the formula us news uses. if you look at many other rankings berkeley michigan ucla ucsd unc ect all do significantly better. the top 20 schools ranked by us news are all private other than #20, which is berkeley. this should tell you something about the benefits of being a private university in us news’ formula.</p>
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<p>Because we don’t like to be confused with Carnegie Institute of Technology :)</p>
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<p>Caltech is overrated ?? don’t make me laugh…</p>
<p>Sorry mistype. I was meant to say caltech is not overrated. I love Caltech, its my dream school, although i got rejected. lol :D</p>
<p>I think Caltech is overrated as university. Sorry. I think there are amazing professors, amazing peers, amazing things to it, but it is very narrow in scope, so much so that it hardly sounds like a university- it is truly an institute of technology.</p>
<p>No, Caltech was never overrated! It has been in the top 10 in both US and the world for many years; no matter which sources you use, you will always find me correct.</p>
<p>“Agreed. UCLA has to compete with UVA, Cal, and Umich first before it even considers a rise in rank. It might even fall into 26-28.”</p>
<p>UCLA is not the underdog, or Cal rejects. If you live in California, you would know that many people reject Cal to go to UCLA. I cannot testify to the out of state reputation of UCLA compared to Berkeley, but in state UCLA is just as good as Cal. The student body of UCLA is equal to that of Cal. If you want to argue that Cal is better academically then go ahead, but UCLA is certainly not behind 10 spots.</p>
<p>“Ummm…that’s because UCLA’s yield is horrible.”</p>
<p>Actually if UCLA and Cal were one school, the yield rate would probably be 70-80%. Most people who get accepted to Cal are also accepted to UCLA, they each have a yield rate of 40%. Therefore, most the people who get into both schools attend either UCLA or Cal. The remaining attend Stanford, elite East coast school, USC on scholarship, etc.</p>
<p>-Fall 2004 Yield Rates
UCLA 4257/9949 = 43%
UC Berkeley 3671/9024 = 41%
<a href=“http://www.aim.ucla.edu/data/studen...le.Fall2004.pdf[/url]”>http://www.aim.ucla.edu/data/studen...le.Fall2004.pdf</a>
<a href=“http://metrics.vcbf.berkeley.edu/calstats.pdf[/url]”>http://metrics.vcbf.berkeley.edu/calstats.pdf</a></p>
<p>Compared to UCSD’s yield rate of 22% for the same year <a href=“http://studentresearch.ucsd.edu/sri...ll/ffapadac.pdf[/url]”>http://studentresearch.ucsd.edu/sri...ll/ffapadac.pdf</a></p>
<p>That was some of the worst math I have ever come across.</p>
<p>Many students at Cal really didn’t get into UCLA. Also, you’re assumign that any accepted Berkeley student who doesn’t end up at Berkeley will go to UCLA. Where do you think the other 59% of the admitted Cal students go? UCLA? In point of fact, most of the students who get into both end up going somewhere else. The vast majority of the 57% who don’t choose UCLA and 59% who don’t go to Cal will probably not even go to a UC school at all.</p>
<p>I would reject UCLA and Cal to go to community college.</p>
<p>In my opinion Caltech should be rank 1 in the US News Engineering ranking, or maybe compete for rank 1 with MIT. I heard from a current MIT students that the engineering course at Caltech is harder than the course at MIT, but he chose MIT over Caltech simply because it has a better global name!</p>
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Another unbiased opinion from ihateCA. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>We all have our preferences. I just question the use of the word “bias.”</p>
<p>:rolleyes:</p>