<p>Does anyone know when the new US News Top College Issue magazine will be on the newstands?</p>
<p>according to threads barrons has started it is on the shelves now-
I do find it helpful- particulary with % of students receiving aid- and amounts of loans they graduate with- both concerns of students I advise at Ds high school- but as far as tiered rankings go- while I agree that in terms of resources and academic rigor you could probably have three or so tiers- I disagree about the rankings within those tiers- and the placement of schools within tiers can also be hotly contested.
The articles within the guide though can be very helpful- on planning for college- on looking for different types of schools whatever- anyway- It sounds like it was on the newstands at Barnes and Nobles yesterday or the day before and should be everywhere else by today.</p>
<p>I like the guide just as a quick resource for number of students, ratio males to females, price, etc.
What is Barrons?</p>
<p>Barrons is a CC user.</p>
<p>Availability online now but the issue may not be on all newstands today…it should be but it depends on your city.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=89519[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=89519</a></p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=89521[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=89521</a></p>
<p>Barrons is a poster- who apparently picked up the guide a few days ago at Barnes and Noble- I don’t know if he works there or just happend to see it as it was being put out but he has been helping others look up rankings</p>
<p>Others have also said that they saw the mag in bookstores. I think the official date is Monday, but you can probably find them today. They’re also up online, but not the complete info, of course.</p>
<p>The complete information is available online. </p>
<p>I purchased it last night. Reading the details of this year’s rankings enraged me, and made me regret giving them the 15 dollars. Hopefully, they use the money wisely and buy a clue and some integrity.</p>
<p>the methodology or the results?</p>
<p>Oh sorry, I meant what is available for free online wasn’t the complete version.</p>
<p>LOL I did not read that post carefully…I thought you were saying Barrons has it on the shelf…I am thinking never heard of that store!</p>
<p>No, but Borders does! :p</p>
<p>Well for those on CC Barrons has been the store for two years running…that is the story for early info.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/rankindex_brief.php[/url]”>http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/rankindex_brief.php</a></p>
<p>There is the list, which is a useful start for learning which schools are in the range of other schools using the standards that no one seems to understand well enough.</p>
<p>My advice to applicants for undergraduate schools - find out where their graduates go and if it looks like someplace you want to be - consider it along with all the other factors that will make college valuable to you. Those of us who have been around awhile know how easily manipulated this list has been for some schools.</p>
<p>One use of this list would be for States like New York to ponder their higher education plan…Three schools in the top 100 universities none in the top fifty…compared to California with all eight in the top 100(Merced is just starting up but will be climbing fast), six in the top fifty.</p>
<p>If the school offers the quality program you want and it is located in a place you would like…is more important that if the school ranked 38 or 48 on some magazines list.</p>
<p>“compared to California with all eight in the top 100(Merced is just starting up but will be climbing fast)”</p>
<p>Hate to be picky, but weren’t there 9 UC schools before Merced’s opening? :)</p>
<ol>
<li>Berkeley </li>
<li>Davis </li>
<li>Irvine
4, Los Angeles </li>
<li>Riverside </li>
<li>San Diego</li>
<li>San Francisco </li>
<li>Santa Barbara </li>
<li>Santa Cruz</li>
</ol>
<p>and </p>
<p>10th Merced</p>
<p>I left out San Francisco because it doesn’t offer itself as an undergraduate University. I apologize if I mislead anyone.</p>
<p>" enraged you … the methodology or the results?</p>
<p>They go hand in and. My problem is that the methodology is misleading and distorts basic facts. US News uses the numbers on the right of their peer assessment to lend an aura of respectability to an otherwise moronic ranking. </p>
<p>While I understand that graduation rate are important, one has to wonder about the expected graduation formula. If anyone can find the logic behind the expected graduation of Harvey Mudd being 99% and Pomona’s 96%, I am all ears. Has anyone EVER heard of a 99% expected graduation rate at an engineering school? This results in a penalty of MINUS 16! Caltech -the school most comparable to Mudd- gets an expected graduation rate of 90% </p>
<p>The way I see it USN found the most insidious way to penalize schools that are most selective and protect the desired status quo. Lower selectivity at a favored school? No problem: slap a lower expected rate and it will results in a few bonus points. Wellesley gets an easy earned PLUS 4 in that category and that mitigates the impact of its lower selectivity.</p>
<p>US News is slowly moving from misleading to blatantly dishonest.</p>
<p>Mr B, I was just “messing” with you. I know that most people do not include San Francisco and tend to see the UC system as a 9 + 1. Your point about comparing the situation of states was on the mark. </p>
<p>I should have looked up that little “wink” smilie.</p>
<p>Xiggi,</p>
<p>where do you go to school?</p>
<p>Sorry if everyone elses already knows, but I’ve always found your posts informative and I was wondering where you chose to go to school.</p>