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<p>lolwut.</p>
<p>NYU is an excellent research university with highly ranked graduate and professional programs, and yet it’s still ranked in the 30s. Does this mean that the WASP establishment is antisemitic as well? NO WAI.</p>
<p>Fordham made a huge jump from 61 to 56. I still think that academically, they’re a better school than BU, GW, Syracuse, and Yeshiva and deserve to be in the top 50.</p>
<p>kwu, I don’t think anti-religious sentiment is the reason for Georgetown’s ranking. Georgetown is not considered excellent in a single traditional discipline. It is not ranked among the top 30 in any of the principal 14 traditional discipline. Even its Political Science department is barely ranked among the top 40. Most of its departments are not considered among the top 50 in the nation. Georgetown is excellent in International Relations, strong in Business and Nursing and excellent for students intent on going to law school or working for the federal government after graduating from college. But in most other ways, Georgetown is not an academic powerhouse.</p>
<p>These ratings are an ill-conceived cover-up of what they actually were, before I stole them in a daring raid. Know the truth: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/981298-long-journey-steal-us-news-top-25-27-a.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/981298-long-journey-steal-us-news-top-25-27-a.html</a></p>
<p>Gainers
+5 UCI
+3 USC, UCD, UCSB</p>
<p>Losers
-8 Illinois
-6 Wisconsin
-3 Ohio State
-2 Michigan</p>
<p>… Speechless!!</p>
<p>“the WASP establishment hates georgetown, notre dame and BC. they should all be higher. yes BC made a huge jump to 31, but i want more.”</p>
<p>Fordham is also Jesuit but they made a huge jump/</p>
<p>Sam Lee, NU is ranked #12 on the real list.</p>
<p>Although it could have easily been in the top 10 (tied for #9) because its overall score is very close to Chicago/Duke/Dartmouth.</p>
<p>^nevermind my post then. I got confused. Wow…people got so worked up for nothing.</p>
<p>[Northwestern</a> University - Best College - Education - US News](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/evanston-il/northwestern-1739]Northwestern”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/evanston-il/northwestern-1739)</p>
<p>Chicago/Dartmouth/Duke are tied at #9. Then Northwestern at #12.</p>
<p>godevils2011 has a good point. As I mentioned on the Columbia thread, what cracks me up about folks thinking university “x” is overrated or university “y” is underrated is that the premise is based on one’s historical perspective. If one reads this site on a regular basis, HYMPS are engrained as the top five. Why is that? Because that’s the perspective of folks who post on this site, who in large part gained their perspective from this site (or other similar self-perpetuating sources), which in turns gains its perspective from USNWR.</p>
<p>When USNWR changes their methodology to remain interesting or to increase revenues, folks hyper-analyze the methodology. There are a zillion ways to change the methodology, and USNWR has only tapped the surface.</p>
<p>Next year, another Penn, or Columbia, or Duke, or other “undeserving” school will occupy or co-occupy the fourth spot, due to a shift in the methodology. USNWR will sell a lot of media, and all will be right in the world…</p>
<p>Here’s what’s listed for the Best Undergraduate Business Programs</p>
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<p>Yeah, and USC will be the size of Stanford, decreasing in enrollment from 17K to ~ 6-7K, lol…</p>
<p>You’re crowing about the things I find dubious about the US News’ rankings. </p>
<p>SATs… USC super-scores the SAT and encourages retakes. Add, that a lot of students at USC have to retake the SAT because they’re from lower-tier standings at whatever private school and have to take advantage of super-scoring to be marketable.</p>
<p>This and the fact taht USC admits from NO FLOOR, which means it can claim a lower acceptance rate. </p>
<p>The tidal-wave of students is on its decline, with these next, say, five years being the latter groups for these echo baby-boomers. At its peak, this surge in college-aged students was probably 2x’s the number of in non-peak years, and consequently USC got back into the ballgame…congrats. This will mean that that 24% acceptance rate (per NYT for 2010) will probably creep back upwards and the yield will decrease, unless USC lowers enrollment considerably. But if it does that, then the school’s going to have to forcibly retire profs at a pretty good rate, I would think.</p>
<p>I would like to see USC crow about the number of high-powered professionals in the medical, law and business professions. There are good amounts for the latter, becuase USC tries to flood the business field, but considering how many BuAd degrees USC doles out, I think there should be a lot more big names in that field - I’m not talking about a VP for so-and-so company. As for the former two, USC doesn’t do a very good job - let’s be frank.</p>
<p>Btw, there isn’t much difference in, say, unweighted in UCLA and Cal’s gpas and the supposed lower tier UCs. THere isn’t that much play in gpa to see an appreciable difference, in anyone’s. You’d have to look at class-rank and gpa for individual hss.</p>
<p>You’re also essentially crowing about the addition of high-school counselors to the mix at 7.5% and the lowering of peer rankings from 25 to 15%. Frankly, I value more the deans, administration at other universities’ opinions, more so than high-school counselors(?!), lol. </p>
<p>But nonetheless, congrats. Let’s see UCLA administration’s reaction. If you were to rank universities’ administrations, I would agree, there’s not much going on at UCLA. Certainly, not dynamic, pro-active, energetic, long-term in thought.</p>
<p>Has anyone noticed that Harvey Mudd is ranked #18 only? This ranking is so debatable.</p>
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<p>Debatable? Try ridiculous. Harvey Mudd is almost certainly the most underranked school in the nation. You have to respect their complete apathy when it comes to rankings, though. If they really wanted to, I’m sure they could be top 5 rather easily.</p>
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<p>Oh, I think there is.</p>
<p>The average admitted students at Berkeley are significantly stronger than those at UCLA. The average enrolled students at Berkeley are stronger than those at UCLA. Take a look at the data of both schools:</p>
<p><a href=“http://students.berkeley.edu/admissions/freshmen.asp[/url]”>http://students.berkeley.edu/admissions/freshmen.asp</a>
[Search</a> - UCLA Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prosp...osh_Prof10.htm]Search”>http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prosp...osh_Prof10.htm)</p>
<p>Kindly take note that the stats provided by UCLA on their website are for admitted applicants. And historically, admitted applicants have higher/stronger stats than enrolled stats (which Berkeley has provided by on their website.)</p>
<p>This is BULL****</p>
<p>WHAT?! How could MIT be 7th in rankings?! Damn Columbia!
From 4 to 7?! And Harvard is 1st?!?
WHAT?! WHAAAATT?!???!?</p>
<p>^ How could Berkeley be #22?!</p>
<p>kwu that made NO sense. is NYU officially affiliated with judaism? NO.</p>
<p>While these new rankings make for nice banter material, how 'bout a moment of silence for the saps who will infer significance to minor differences in rankings and allow that to influence their choice of where to spend 4 years?</p>
<p>Re the banter…although I like public schools and dislike USC, I’m eager for the day when USC passes Berkeley, just for the entertainment value of the boasting and sour grapes.</p>
<p>With BC squeaking past Brandeis, the Boston-area pecking order has it’s first major change since BC broke away from its tie with BU a couple decades and a Hail Mary pass ago.</p>
<p>It’s probably not the WASPs who are anti-Catholic as much as extreme feminists, the far left, atheists, and the people of different religious traditions.</p>
<p>NYU might suffer from the conscious or subconscious irritation of anybody who’s experienced overexposure to people from the greater NYC area…which probably includes everybody who ever went to a college in New England, or attended a good college anywhere in North America.</p>
<p>@thenatural </p>
<p>great comment hahaha. Brandeis is a good school tho. BC doesn’t deserve that 31 spot…thats pathetic, a school full of rich boston irish catholics. Notre Dame moving up to 19, ***? Berkeley 22 behind Gtown?? can USNews bias towards public school get any more blatant?</p>