USC 2010 Transfer Thread

<p>Skyline, I plan on taking the traditional path to PE (2 year in IB –> Pre-MBA Associate –> MBA –> Post-MBA Associate etc…) but I’m not planning on going into the megafunds like KKR, TPG but rather a MM firm. Hopefully if I do get into USC, I would like to network not only for banking but PE as well. Just was curious to know if their were any alumni in MM firms? What about you, do you plan to stay in investment banking or do you want to move onto something else like PE or VC? </p>

<p>mxbile131, thanks for the awesome link!</p>

<p>@mxbile131: I don’t think that you should be too concerned about having an investment banking job early on. As far as hands on experience, I work with a lot of excel, powerpoint and internal propietary software. Learning the barebones finance part comes in from school; what you actually apply from what you learn is school is rolled into that. As long as you are willing to work hard and show it, the rest will fall into place. Keep in mind that entry-level Analyst potions frequently have you pull all-nighters or can be challenging to where, and I quote, “you want to gouge your eyes out with bicycle spokes and jump into an acid pond filled with crocodiles.” It isn’t for the light-hearted.</p>

<p>As for facebook, I try to stay away from online social sites since it’s against firm policy.</p>

<p>@zack504: USC’s network is wide enough that I would (forgive the pun) bank on alumni being a part of many different types of firms.</p>

<p>As for myself, I’m looking towards venture capital in real estate development, particularly China since it is a gray area when you talk about an emerging market. Private Equity is attractive, but I would like to talk to more people in the field. I’ve also considered microfinance.</p>

<p>okay I am tripping balls right now after seeing the new COMPLETE makeover of Marshall for us transfer students. As I take it from many people who’ve said it before and from my observations of the [USC</a> Marshall faq2010](<a href=“http://www.marshall.usc.edu/undergradprogram/advising/faq2010.htm#decide]USC”>http://www.marshall.usc.edu/undergradprogram/advising/faq2010.htm#decide) that we no LONGER HAVE CONCENTRATIONS ?! Meaning we’ll graduate with a degree in Business Admin and NOT say a degree in Finance upon graduation?! Because I really would rather have the old curriculumn and pursue my business concentration. Also, they say they “expect this curriculumn to make students pursue a minor” ?! I mean that is so forceful, what makes you think I want to pursue a random minor simply because you’ve changed the curriculmn.</p>

<p>They’re making the changes all of a sudden and not giving us an option to choose the old curriculumn is a bit absurd in my opinion. As great as USC Marshall is, I did NOT apply and sign up for a new curriculmn, I applied for the old one, but now I’m expected to just change my 2 years of hard work and planning and adapt to a completly new program without any prior notification, while other Marshall students go the old curriculmn route simply because they entered in Spring 2010 or before? Doesn’t that seem a bit discriminatory in a sense… I am going to call them later and see if it is at all possible for me to petition for the old curriculmn if I am accepted… Could some people please let me know your thoughts.</p>

<p>@xdzzzrawr: Concentrations, are simply just that, concentrations. They don’t appear on your degree and never have. The concentrations were a guide to take a particular set of classes, ensuring that students didn’t just wildly pick (the easiest) classes. This is further explained by Julia Plotts (professor of Financial Analysis & Valuation – a favorite of mine) here: Finance and Business Economics Presentation - [USC</a> Marshall Degree Program Senior Concentration](<a href=“http://www.marshall.usc.edu/undergradprogram/degrees/senior-concentration.htm]USC”>http://www.marshall.usc.edu/undergradprogram/degrees/senior-concentration.htm)</p>

<p>But, as it stands, I think it’s a matter of units and not a matter of what classes that we want to take. It doesn’t irk me as much as I thought it would. If anything, and like it was stated, it offers more flexibility.</p>

<p>Well… I called Marshall Undergraduate Admissions office and the lady basically told me that the new curriculmn is supposed to help students become well rounded… whether or not it will is up to debate. She also said that business majors will be expected to have a minor and that during oreintation they will help explain how it is we should pursue a minor along with the outline and explanation of the new curriculmn. Also we will sit down with a counselor to help us choose a minor of our choice that best suits us… to me this either helps students who originally wanted to pursue minors before applying or hurt those who are completly confused as to what random minor they MUST pursue. </p>

<p>As far as the degree goes, it was my mistake, if anyone else didn’t know this, the lady told me that Marshall applicants since 1920 always graduated with a degree in Business Admin and not in a degree in a concentration they pursue. For concentrations if we say wanted to pursue finance, she said that out of the 12 upper division elective courses we will take say 2 finance elective courses and 1 course in negotiation or another elective that will somehow cater to finance. </p>

<p>She also rest assured that our classes in ECON that we took will not be wasted as the concepts will carry on to the Intermediate Econ courses (which I wanted to escape from my current university). </p>

<p>She also kept reitterating how much thought they’ve put into this and that it was a covert curriculmn plan that even Marshall students at USC didn’t know about and she was shocked that I found about it this quick and almost interrogated me on where I got my information, of course I said College Confidential and she didn’t know what this site was and said “I don’t know what blog you’re getting your info from, but I’m an undergraduate advisor and my information is more correct” Dont worry guys, I defended this site and all those who are on it and made her know that us College Confidential kids mean serious buisness.</p>

<p>Did everyone else’s Oasis page change so that we can only see financial aid documents and awards? I can no longer see the status of my submitted application documents…</p>

<p>@arcadefire1027: Yes. If you login through USConnect, you can still see the documents. It seems that you missed the last few pages. There are some other important details regarding the curriculum that I suggest you read as well.</p>

<p>My Oasis page still looks the same. I wonder why.</p>

<p>@arcadefire1027</p>

<p>My Oasis page changed as well to just the Financial Aid Document Status links. If I remembered correctly, our application status used to show up on the same page too?</p>

<p>@xdzzzrawr - There is absolutely no way I will be able to squeeze a minor in. As it stands now due to the new curriculum, I’ll have 18 courses I’ll need for graduation once I transfer. That is 4 semester of 4 classes and 2 classes over summer or during a fall semester of a 3rd year. So can they really force us to spend a third year just to complete a minor? Guess we’ll see. I really wanted to finish it in 2 years though. </p>

<p>Considering I already have 100+ credits completed, I feel like I am gonna be in school forever at this rate lol.</p>

<p>@sky - Yes, it happened to all of us.</p>

<p>@Kulakai: Considering that it’s a flat rate for full-time students, why not just take more classes your first two years rather than sacrificing your summers in which you can do an internship?</p>

<p>The admissions status link on OASIS was convenient. -_- I wish they wouldn’t have taken it off hahaha</p>

<p>@skyline - but it is only a flat rate up to 18 credits right? Since each class is usually 4 credits, I’d end up paying extra to add on a 5th class. Though I will certainly consider if it if after the first semester I feel I could handle that heavy of a load in following semesters.</p>

<p>@Skyline: Tuition is a flat rate only up to 18 credits, after that you get charged. So if you wanted to take 5 courses a semester (20 credits), you’d be charged an additional $1299 per credit over 18, so $2600 a semester more. I think you also have to be granted permission to take on a 20 credit/semester course load.</p>

<p>I personally don’t agree with the ethics behind implementing this curriculum change for transfers-especially juniors. Current students (who may completed even less credits than us) are allowed to follow the original curriculum, but not us? Personally, I was attracted to the idea of a 16 unit concentration, without being forced into taking econ or minor classes that I may not be interested in. Although it most likely wouldn’t have changed my decision to apply, and possibly attend, the new program isn’t as attractive to me and I feel like they changed the rules on us in the middle of the game which is BS IMO…</p>

<p>What a shame. From my perspective I think its worth it to just go ahead and take the hit to get your degree as fast as possible.</p>

<p>From another point of view, I think this makes transfers try a bit harder to transfer with as many units as possible before moving into USC’s system.</p>

<p>So I’m still a little confused, if I were to get in, I’d be pursing a B.S. in accounting not business administration. Does all of this still apply for Leventhal? I know Leventhal is a part of Marshall but the accounting curriculum is pretty structured so I don’t know how that would work.</p>

<p>Note to self: post the updated 4 year Marshall degree worksheet I photoshopped together last night with the curriculum changes included so you all can see it and plan accordingly.</p>

<p>So just being cautious… If I were not admitted for fall could I apply for spring or do they only accept spring transfers on rare occasions? Also if I were able to apply for spring when would I start the application process?</p>