<p>This new USNews global study put Princeton at #13 globally, and #9 in the US. Not bad!</p>
<p>[World’s</a> Best Universities; Top 400 Universities in the World | US News](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/education/worlds-best-universities-rankings/top-400-universities-in-the-world]World’s”>http://www.usnews.com/education/worlds-best-universities-rankings/top-400-universities-in-the-world)</p>
<p>Or you could choose to look at these rankings in which Princeton does better than your alma mater, Mancune:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/top-400.htm[/url]”>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/top-400.htm</a></p>
<p>I can only assume you chose to post in the Princeton forum because you take these lists so seriously that it bothers you that Princeton tops Yale in other popular college rankings.</p>
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Would you be so kind as to point out where you sensed hostility/spite in OP’s post?</p>
<p>mancune, thanks for your post.</p>
<p>@Wildwood</p>
<p>That was uncalled for.</p>
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<li><p>I think Wildwood11 read mancune’s post in exactly the sense it was intended. It was a jab at Princeton. Ninth in the U.S.?</p></li>
<li><p>Notwithstanding how satisfying these rankings are to me – my fave institutions fare much better than Princeton relative to their general reputation among high school students – there is an element of ridiculousness in Princeton’s ranking.</p></li>
<li><p>So you look at what’s behind it, and you see that Princeton fell down in three areas: reputation with employers, student-faculty ratio, and percentage of international students. The first is bizarre – does anyone really think Princeton’s reputation among employers is only 70% of Yale’s or Columbia’s? The second has to be some sort of weird glitch in how they calculate that number, because no one familiar with the institutions in question thinks that Princeton’s student-faculty ratio is meaningfully worse than Yale, Penn, or Chicago. And the international student ratio is purely a function of Princeton’s relatively small graduate programs and absence of business school and other international-student magnets.</p></li>
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<p>However . . . it should be a lesson to people on CC to see how places like Chicago, Michigan, Cornell, and Hopkins are viewed by an international audience relative to places like HYPS.</p>
<p>Wildwood’s link doesn’t work. Here is the ranking he was referring too.</p>
<p>[Top</a> 400 - The Times Higher Education World University Rankings 2011-2012](<a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/top-400.html]Top”>World University Rankings 2011-12 | Times Higher Education (THE))</p>
<p>Princeton is fifth in the world in this ranking compared to Yale’s 11th. </p>
<p>Personally, I like this one below…since my son is applying EA this fall probably as an engineer</p>
<p>[Top</a> Universities for Engineering & Technology 2011-2012](<a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/engineering-and-it.html]Top”>Subject Ranking 2011-12: Engineering & Technology | Times Higher Education (THE))</p>
<p>Princeton comes in third in the world and I don’t even see Harvard or Yale in the top 50. </p>
<p>So we can all just find the rankings we like and just ignore those we don’t and we’ll all be happy. :)</p>
<p>Thanks, JHS.</p>
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<p>Tamlin, Mancune is a loyal member of the Yale community. Nothing wrong with he/she being an advocate for such a wonderful school, but perhaps you haven’t been on CC long enough to be aware of the techniques people use to promote their favorite schools by putting down others–such as posting an underhanded dig on a rival school’s forum.</p>
<p>Remember that the same U.S. News that reprinted these global rankings of the QS World University Rankings, has put Princeton just ahead of Yale over the past several years in its own ranking system and that seems to irk some Yalies. It is all silly, however, since you could come up with a thousand different criteria and weighting systems, all just as valid, and have 1,000 different ranking orders.</p>
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<p>I agree. There are over 2,000 institutions of higher education in the US and lord knows how many thousands more the world over. Being ranked almost in the Top 10 is nothing for Wildwood to get defensive about!</p>
<p>Mancune, So why did you not post about Yale’s impressive #4 ranking in the Yale forum and only chose to start a thread here about one of Princeton’s lesser showings?</p>
<p>I’m honestly not defensive about the rankings per se, but yeah, I am really bothered by competitive posters who seek to undermine other schools gratuitously.</p>
<p>Anyone who thinks Mancune’s real intentions are to innocently compliment Princeton should go look at his post history.</p>