<p>can someone tell me the pros and cons of each?
thanks</p>
<p>UT Austin:</p>
<p>+Austin is a great college town
+Great affordable cost
+Nice weather</p>
<p>-So big, hard to get to know teachers and get into the classes you want (low 4-yr graduation rate)
-Everyone is from Texas
-Can have a party atmosphere which can turn some people off</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins:</p>
<p>-Weather in the northeast isn’t fantastic though there are seasons.
-Students are held to a very high standard which is challenging for almost everyone.
-Very small university, hard to be anonymous.</p>
<p>+Incredible students in an global community & world-class professors.
+Very small classes, individualized attention, research opportunities galore, resources at your fingertips.
+East coast location and city-living. </p>
<p>Using a commercial analogy, I think the major difference is that UT Austin is more like a warehouse shopping experience (large, impersonal, average) and Hopkins is more like a chic boutique (individual catering, high quality). Both are great, it just depends on what you’re looking for.</p>
<p>UT-Austin is a flagship public university. But not much more. Good at a number of things, but not outstanding at any.</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins is school with recognized specialties.</p>
<p>The boutique vs. warehouse analogy is a good one.</p>
<p>They’re two VERY different beasts.</p>
<p>UT-Austin:</p>
<p>Richest university in the world ($2 billion annual budget, Austin campus)</p>
<p>Top 10 endowment (cash)</p>
<p>Number 1 in library and information studies (Austin campus has 40 libraries)</p>
<p>Number 1 in accounting</p>
<p>Top 10 in entrepreneurship (business)</p>
<p>Top 3 in teacher education</p>
<p>Top 10 in chemistry</p>
<p>Top 10 in public affairs</p>
<p>Number 1 in latin america studies</p>
<p>Top 15 in physics</p>
<p>Top 10 aerospace engineering</p>
<p>Top 3 in radio, television and film</p>
<p>Top 10 in earth sciences</p>
<p>Top 5 in journalism</p>
<p>Top 10 in information & technology management </p>
<p>Top 2 in petroleum engineering</p>
<p>Number 1 nursing school (on Austin campus)</p>
<p>Top 20 law school (on Austin campus)</p>
<p>Top 10 in anthropolgy</p>
<p>Top 5 in linguistics</p>
<p>Number 1 in beautiful coeds (Playboy rankings)</p>
<p>It depends on what you want to do. If you want to go into the medical field, JHU is the place to be. If you want to major in other things or don’t know what to major in, UT-Austin is a better place, since it’s strong in a variety of fields.</p>
<p>Moonglow–I have no quarrel with the fact that UT-Austin is a good university but calling it “the richest university” because it has a $2 billion budget is a bit farfetched. UT-Austin has 38,000 undergraduates. Hopkins has a budget of $2.4 billion–and it has 4700 undergraduates. And no one claims Hopkins to be the “richest university.” For better or for worse, that distinction is Harvard’s (notwithstanding its significant losses last year).</p>
<p>UT-Austin used to have an honors college which was outstanding according to friends who went there. This provided them with a unique experience of a small college within the larger university, a best of both worlds experience. Check it out.</p>
<p>UT and Hopkins are both great schools and they are the schools I had the hardest time picking between. Frankly, neither school is going to keep you “out” of the top grad schools or jobs as long as you work hard and do well. I think WealthOfInformation’s summary captures both schools pretty well, so I’m not going to try to create another pro/con list. I think if you’re deciding between Hopkins and UT, your decision should be based mostly on the environment (campus size, city location, campus life) unless you’re specifically interested in a particular program that only one school has.</p>
<p>HonestDescendent, I’m guessing you’re refering to the [Plan</a> II Honors Program](<a href=“Plan II Honors Program | Liberal Arts | UT - Austin”>Plan II Honors Program | Liberal Arts | UT - Austin) - it’s an awesome broad liberal arts based honors program that also gives students the opportunity to double major in another field (engineering, business, etc)</p>
<p>The University of Texas System is valued at $250+ billion in assets.</p>
<p>The UT-Austin campus has a $2 billion dollar annual budget; the UT System (all colleges, professional schools, and hospitals have a $12+ billion annual budget. Johns Hopkins TOTAL (university, professional schools, hospitals) has a budget of $2+ billion annually - and half of that is for the hospitals.</p>
<p>(Disclaimer: I am a fellow at Johns Hopkins Hospital).</p>
<p>undergraduate population:
JHU: ~5000
UT: ~37500</p>
<p>Stats:
JHU:
Middle 50% of First-Year Students Percent Who Submitted Scores
SAT Critical Reading: 630 - 730 93%
SAT Math: 670 - 770 93%
SAT Writing: 650 - 730 93%
ACT Composite: 29 - 33 36% </p>
<p>UT:
Middle 50% of First-Year Students Percent Who Submitted Scores
SAT Critical Reading: 530 - 660 92%
SAT Math: 570 - 700 92%
SAT Writing: 530 - 660 92%
ACT Composite: 24 - 30 44 </p>
<p>I am surprised that UT’s stats are so low. I thought they are on par with UC Berkeley.</p>
<p>U. Texas at Austin is mandated by Texas law to take a percentage of students from Texas high schools who have lower standard test scores.</p>
<p>Again, get this straight: JHU is NOT competing with Texas at Austin, it’s competing with Texas at Austin - Plan II, which run as a college within the larger university. Plan II has around 3000 students in its four-year program and is Ivy education equivalent (it was created in 1935 to stop the “brain drain” to other schools). In my opinion, Plan II is the last only program available at a large national university which offers a trully great liberal arts education. </p>
<p>Compare Plan II to that which is offered at JHU, Rice, Duke, etc.</p>
<p>I would disagree that only the Plan II program at UT is competing with Hopkins. Plan II is a liberal arts focused program that has less than 800 students, and while it is often compared to a private school liberal arts education, there are many other programs at UT that are just as strong as non-liberal arts programs at Hopkins.</p>
<p>Moonglow, where did you get the department rankings for UT-Austin?</p>
<p>UT-Austin rankings came frrom “USNews & World Report”. You can buy a very well referenced book published by them concerning university rankings at any good bookstore.</p>
<p>I’m saying, Plan II competes for the same student applicants that would apply to Johns Hopkins. My older brother was accepted to many universities, including several of the top tier: Princeton, Brown, Yale, U. Chicago, Rice, Vanderbilt, and by Plan II - he chose Plan II. Now he’s a freakin’ lawyer. :)</p>
<p>I’m originally from outside the U.S. One thing I can tell you is that Johns Hopkins is world renowned as one of the best. I haven’t really heard how good is UT. I know it must exists since each state have a state university. I will go with JHU if you’re after prestige.</p>
<p>The prestige of the two schools internationally vary by region, and by people. In Asia, UT-Austin is on par in prestige with Cal-Berkeley. JHU is pretty much only known for its medical school. UT-Austin carries much more weight in other fields: Business, Law, Engineering.</p>
<p>As an honors program grad at UT-Austin, I have to say the honors program offers a very close knit community. It truly provides a small college feel in a huge university. The caliber of students at in the various honors programs are very high. The Dean Scholars program for natural science boasts 100% acceptance rate to med school. Most of my buddies are doing graduate program in schools like Stanford, Harvard, Duke, etc.</p>
<p>moonglow, can you provide rankings for hopkins programs as you did for ut austin? it’s only fair. rankings in general are useless for determining which school to go to, but to only support one school with statistics is unfair.</p>
<p>liu02bhs. are you trying to suggest that ut is more world-renown than hopkins? in law and business, sure. hopkins has no law school and the business school is only 2 or so years old.</p>
<p>implying ut dominance over hopkins in any other field would be a stretch or lie, including humanities/liberal arts, science, and engineering… or can you prove me wrong?</p>
<p>I think both schools offer unique opportunities - I do think, on average, however that JHU attracts better students. That’s not to say that UT-A as bad students, I just think if you have an average kid at both schools, Hopkins will enroll, teach, and graduate be a better student.</p>