Yes, “In review” for a while
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Thank you SO MUCH for brining this to my attention! Somehow I missed that part of the announcement last spring when they brought back SAT/ACT score submission requirements. And the “college counselor”, who we paid a LOT of money to, apparently had no idea. So infuriating.
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I have no idea how UT Is going about this process. They state there is no advantage to applying EA over RD - but how - by Jan 15 - do they place everyone in their majors, accept/reject the non- autos and still have spots left over for all the RD they have to still review? Doesn’t seem like they can do that unless they have significantly done the RD before the EA are finished.
At least it is a huge school and they don’t guarantee freshman housing, so theoretically their margin for error is not as drastic as some places where they have to find where to house everyone.
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Either that, or they plan to wait list a whole lot of people at EA until the RD is finished.
And you can’t wait list an auto admit…so those major decisions would seem to be final
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I heard that there might me a wave coming out today at 4pm according to someone on reddit who allegedly called the admissions office! Any thoughts?
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With UT they have NEVER done a wave on a Sunday…which means everyone will be refreshing their emails at 4pm on a Sunday.
Isn’t it already past 4PM? Do you mean 5PM?
Does anyone ever wonder if the Wizard pulling the levers behind the curtain giggles a bit when a rumor causes a significant portion of 90000 applicants and their parents to spontaneously refresh all emails 25 times?
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For UNC It’s 3378/36189 = 9.3% let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves here. Both will likely be down further this year but UT seems like a lot further. We’ll see if there’s a Belichick effect next year for UNC – given how football affects applications I suspect there will be.
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Looks like it is in between but continues to drop. Last common data set had 42,085 OOS Applicants and 2,921 Admits for a 6.9% rate but their number of apps continues to increase. Compare that with 16,553 In State Applications with 6,305 Admits or 38%.
By comparison the last Common Data Set for UT had it as 21,103 OOS Apps with 2,482 Admits or 11.7% compared to 39,985 In State Apps with 15,974 Admits or 39.9%. With applications up 48% from OOS that number is going to get crazy. BTW, Yield rate for In State is 51% and OOS is 33% with UNC’s being even worse on OOS. That would suggest a lot of the OOS Admits are Ivy types who are using the 2 schools as a Safety with little intent of actually attending. It’s understandable but it also sucks because there are so many kids that would walk over coals to go to those schools and the reality is a lot of folks just use them but it’s understandable with admissions being such a crapshoot at selective schools now. It’s so hard for someone to know where they will be accepted or not so the only way to protect themselves is to apply to double digit selective schools and thus make the problem worse. At least with Texas and UNC you don’t have the ED stuff factoring in to make the stats even more complicated.
I can’t imagine how hard of a job it is for folks working in Admissions to try and figure this stuff out. They have to try and target getting a class size that hits the mark and there are so many variables. The whole system has evolved into a spider web of complexity. It’s become such a game.
I think it is especially difficult for UT since they admit by major. UNC does not do that (I think).
Not only do they need to estimate yield for in state and oos on a college wide level, they also have to do it on a major-by-major level…or else they’ll have too many trying to get Psych 101 or Econ 101 or Bio 101.
And with the introduction of EA and RD - and they say there is no preference to EA - how are they going to do this? How are they going to hold enough spots open for the RD? How are they going to deny an auto admit a major when they haven’t even seen the RD pool - which could be better or worse.
I don’t know how they are going to do it. Except, if you ask me, they are heading for a future 3/31 single decision date like the UCs.
They have added waitlist option to deal with yield, so they can always trickle in acceptances to get the exact number they need.
Georgia Tech has the best system imo. EA for In State is Oct 15, results in December. EA for OOS is Nov 1, results in January. Then they have an RD round. All admit decisions released the same day. In State gets multiple advantages but no Top 5/6% rule.
A&M is the worst with Rolling. Rolling should really only be for schools that are 80 plus percent admit rate and hurting for applications. Instead their system pushes people to apply super early in August and if they aren’t Auto they could wait 6 months for a decision, sometimes longer with no pattern to predict.
I didn’t see they released a new CDS report as of Monday - my quote was previous release. Still better than 4.9%, but yeah it’s dropping fast.
Pitt does this - then blasts so many emails to those accepted. I think it works well for them in terms of getting on the radar of kids who are reaching higher but might decide that Pitt’s scholarship/discount offers are good especially if their high reaches do not pan out.
However, they do have the full stats of # of applications, etc. before they release EA decisions of the RD pool so it shouldn’t be impossible to have some sort of formula that gives them a way of deciding how to allocate acceptances by major in such a way as to hold decently to the notion that EA vs. RD is not a meaningful difference.
One thing I was imagining is what would be the effect of the common app requiring you to list your top 3-5 schools to be shared with all schools. I wonder what the effect of that information sharing would do to prevent this sort of thing? The downside of this would be what could the colleges share to improve the transparency in the system which overall is my theory as to way people are making so many bets on the roulette wheel. In general my sense is one thing that’s causing some portion of all this grief is the volume of duplicative bets and that becomes recursive problem because more and more people keep playing the same game.
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Did everyone get the Christmas email from UT? 
. My heart skipped a beat.
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Same!