UVA likely to overadmit for early action

<p>Has anyone else seen that when you check your SIS a decision has already been made but you cant see it until January 31? Just wondering who else is seeing this? I’m also wondering if this is a bad sign, because if they have already finished my app my first inclination would be a rejection.</p>

<p>Paper, I just tweeted back to you on this. See:</p>

<p>[Notes</a> from Peabody: The UVA Application Process: Some notes about whast you see in SIS](<a href=“http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2011/11/some-notes-about-whast-you-see-in-sis.html]Notes”>Notes from Peabody: The UVA Application Process: Some notes about what you see in SIS)</p>

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<p>I realize that you need to state that.
But it is not true.</p>

<p>Statistics here, though old, show that Northern Virginia has the highest test scores of any region of the state yet has the lowest acceptance rate:</p>

<p>[url=<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/education/specials/uva_chart.htm?nav=hptop_ts]washingtonpost.com[/url”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/education/specials/uva_chart.htm?nav=hptop_ts]washingtonpost.com[/url</a>]</p>

<p>And another view (though I can’t find it this second) shows that the number of accepted applications to U-Va has increased in all regions of Virginia except NOVA even though Northern Virginia has had the largest population increases.</p>

<p>GolfFather, You have resurrected an old thread and linked an even older article from the Washington Post to it. The link you provided has info from 2000-2002.
There are tons of kids from Northern Virginia at UVa. Scores are only a part of what is looked at in any admissions decision.
Here is an article from 2011. It is not uncommon for people from all over the state to complain when their kid or someone they know is not admitted. As you know, lots of kids want to get into the top schools in Virginia. When something is highly sought after, folks that are not successful are bound to be disappointed.
[Northern</a> Virginia leads UVa, W&M admissions | Daily Progress](<a href=“http://www2.dailyprogress.com/news/2011/jul/31/northern-virginia-leads-uva-wm-admissions-ar-1209146/]Northern”>http://www2.dailyprogress.com/news/2011/jul/31/northern-virginia-leads-uva-wm-admissions-ar-1209146/)</p>

<p>sevmon, the last post was less than ten months ago.
That’s hardly “old.”
There are people who resurrect threads from two or three years ago.
If you prefer, I could start a new thread.
Would it make any difference?</p>

<p>The article you cite (which I’ve seen before) doesn’t contain anything that contradicts the disparity in regional statistics.</p>

<p>And, yes, the so-called holistic approach is always the out - scores are only a part. However, that really also doesn’t explain away the practice. To do so, one would have to accept that the more rural and remote areas of the state are “better” “holistically” than the more urban areas of a state. I don’t think a college wants to try and hang its hat on that.</p>

<p>I’m on College Confidential because I want to help people going through the college search. I don’t need to state anything. </p>

<p>There are no quotas for regions with the Commonwealth. No one has ever tried to restrict on how many students we admit from a school, town, county, or region.</p>

<p>Golf – all things being equal, it probably is a little easier to get into UVA from someplace in the state other than Nova. It is also easier to get in if you are male vs. female, minority vs. caucasian, in-state vs. OOS, legacy vs. non-legacy, engineering school vs. A&S, recruited athlete vs. non-athlete, etc. etc. etc. </p>

<p>That’s what diversity/holistic/well-rounded class means. Best test scores don’t always win. </p>

<p>The one place where there is a real quota is OOS applicants.</p>

<p>Good observations, northwesty. The thing about engineering vs. A & S is interesting. Engineering students tend to be fairly self selective. The engineering applicants for the class of 2016 had the highest median SAT’s ( 1407) and 95 % were in the top 10% of their class… There were 4415 applicants and 1560 offers. It is no walk in the park getting admitted to UVa engineering. [U.Va&lt;/a&gt;. Engineering Facts At A Glance](<a href=“http://www.seas.virginia.edu/about/facts/]U.Va”>http://www.seas.virginia.edu/about/facts/)
Not sure the numbers are so much better (if at all better) for males as opposed to females in general admissions but not sure on that.</p>

<p>I’m under the impression that UVa does not discriminate by gender. There are some other colleges that do. If UVa did discriminate, there wouldn’t be such a high percentage of females in the undergrad classes.</p>

<p>The class of 2016 is 55% female, 45% male.</p>

<p>I think that’s the proportion of the class of 2012 too.</p>

<p>I think Dean J has repeated many times that UVA doesn’t discriminate among in-state students which part of Virginia you come from.</p>

<p>FWIW, I’m really impressed by the attitude and openness of the admissions folks at UVA, including DeanJ. (No, she doesn’t know who I am, I’m not currying favor.)</p>

<p>I visited several top schools this past summer, and felt that UVA had the most candid & informative information session of all of them. My son called the “Dean of the day” with a question, and found her helpful and supportive. The blog DeanJ runs is the only one of its kind that I’ve seen.</p>

<p>So it’s no contest, in the credibility contest, DeanJ & the UVA admissions office win easily over forum posters and uninformed reporters.</p>

<p>Exstudent: </p>

<p>Nice comments, which I echo. </p>

<p>UVa also is also need-blind in admissions (unless your dad has built a large new building for the university recently). Many selective colleges are not need blind - they target students from affluent neighborhoods and private schools, and they may reject a student if they feel they will need too much aid to attend. </p>

<p>UVa also doesn’t play games with tracking the level of interest by students, to try to increase their yield rate.</p>

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This is an important point Charlie and one worth noting this year as the university is beginning new outreach programs to reach students. This may be construed at tracking student interest and create yet another level of anxiety. This is marketing to attract students, not to judge interest and rule them out.</p>