<p>We have had a vacation property in MI for years. We live in WI. U of MI has stringent residency requirements which would prevent in-state tuition for vacation property owners. We could submit a residency application directly, requesting a waiver, however, I have no idea if it is ever granted. If anyone has any guidance, I would appreciate it. Thanks.</p>
<p>you may want to read this</p>
<p>[bumping this thread](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/425161-your-semi-annual-academic-common-market-thread-state-tuition.html”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/425161-your-semi-annual-academic-common-market-thread-state-tuition.html</a>)</p>
<p>Well, just to be honest, I think this is cheating. In California, where we live, the public universities are funded through our state income taxes and the bonds we approve at the polls. We spend years, decades, paying into the system, and I don’t think it would be fair for someone who technically owns property in the state but doesn’t pay state income taxes to get the subsidized tuition.</p>
<p>If you don’t live in Michigan, why would you expect to get in-state tuition?</p>
<p>If you don’t attend schools in your home state- you are ineligible for scholarships for residents-
Wi does have a reciprocity agreement with Mn, but I haven’t yet found a broader agreement- doesn’t mean it isn’t outthere though.</p>
<p>But very popular schools don’t need to increase reciprocity for applicants- so where is their motivation?</p>
<p>Instate schools by definition, are the states in which you reside & recieve services. Where do you live when you pay your federal taxes?
That is your residence.</p>
<p>It’s unlikely that Michigan funds their university system on property taxes. That’s the only scenario where I’d see you claim as justified.</p>
<p>If that were legal half of Illinois owning vacation places in WI would be getting instate tuition at UW. They don’t and won’t. Been decided long ago.</p>
<p>I have a friend who was in the same situation. Michigan denied their residency waiver every year.</p>
<p>Unless mom or dad wants to move to MI and live in the vacation home as a full-time resident (or for the number of required days/year per MI residency requirements) - your residency will be in the state you presently live in.</p>
<p>A friend and I were just talking about U of Mich. Great school, but they don’t give scholarships to OOS, as a rule. The main reason? It’s not that they have anything against out of staters, but Michigan is squarely in the Rusty Auto Belt, and has no money to spare.</p>
<p>So no, if you don’t live in MI and pay taxes there, forget it.</p>
<p>Here is an exhaustive explanation of UM residency requirements:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.umich.edu/~regoff/resreg.html[/url]”>http://www.umich.edu/~regoff/resreg.html</a></p>
<p>This explantion includes the following:</p>
<p>“2. Circumstances that do not demonstrate permanent domicile
- ownership of property or payment of Michigan property taxes”</p>
<p>I can tell you that everything I have heard and read indicates that it is very dfficult to establish Michigan residency unless you are solidly a Michigan resident.</p>
<p>mommusic, I might have to disagree with you slightly. Many of the major merit scholarships (LSA Dean, Shipman, Engineering) are offerred to out-of-state students.</p>
<p>Actually, mommusic, just so you know, OOS students can get some pretty hefty merit awards at UM. I don’t know how common they are, but they do happen.</p>
<p>On the subject of In-State tuition, I don’ see how one could expect to qualify if he/she is not paying Michigan state income tax. The non-homestead property taxes that vacation-home owners pay do go to school funding, but that is K-12. The state university system is funded by the legislature out of general funds.</p>
<p>I may stand corrected, but UM does not spend as much to lure OOS as other schools. I could look up the statistics, but our family’s personal experience and that of other people we know indicate it’s pretty hard for even exceptional students to get merit aid from them. And the reason given (the state being in financial straits) rings true to me.</p>
<p>And the other explanation is their tuition for OOS is high to begin with. According to Wikipedia, “in 2007, tuition for out-of-state students was the most expensive in the country.” </p>
<p>So the Uni would have to be extra generous to be competitive to OOS, and it’s just not gonna happen.</p>
<p>In terms of being in the “Rusty Auto Belt”, it really doesn’t have that much of an impact. Michigan only receives about 12% of its total revenues from the state, so it’s really the endowment (up 20%+ last year) that has a major impact on scholarship money.</p>
<p>Also, with regard to need-based aid, while UM does not guarantee to meet 100% of need, it treats in-state and out-of-state students the same with regard to need-based money.</p>
<p>The University itself does not have merit earmarked for OOS students (at least not when I researched it). But the individual schools have some non-residency connected money. We didn’t realize that until LS&A offered S 15K/yr. And I know other OOSers who got the same or better offers. This one was a Deans’ scholarship–they give about 60 of these a yr. There’s also the Shipman which I believe is full tuition, but I don’t know how many there are. Engineering also has merit scholarships not related to residency, and I imagine other schools do, too.</p>
<p>I bow to your first-hand knowledge, mommusic. As I said, I don’t know how common such awards are. I just know that, after the scholarships were subtracted form the total bill, my in-state son and a counterpart from out of state had the same balance due, which was a nice, low figure (neither qualified for need-based aid). Could be that this phenomon is more common in the engineering school; I don’t know.</p>
<p>cross post with Garland</p>