<p>Ok, I just have to say this because it drives me crazy - spktruth is correct in his quotation marks. The period goes inside the marks only if the entire sentence is inside the marks.</p>
<p>Check it out: [Quotation</a> Marks: Where Do the Periods and Commas Go–And Why?](<a href=“http://grammartips.homestead.com/inside.html]Quotation”>Quotation Marks: Where Do the Periods and Commas Go--And Why?)</p>
<p>wow, why does everything result in pointless arguments? lol now you’re arguing about grammar on a college admissions forum. </p>
<p>p.s. StevenSeagal is right about the quotation marks, but that’s besides the point.</p>
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That’s because you’re on the nerdiest forum lol</p>
<p>lol I guess but seriously… all the recent posts on the Emory forums have been arguments (most of them pointless).</p>
<p>Well the data so far is the decline in applications despite the record-high graduating class (and hence increase in adm. rate), not-so-good financial aid (from what I understand from the threads on this forum), and big waitlists. As in regards to “I got rejected with 1410 and that guy got in with 1390” - I am an international, but thanks to this forum, I know that the admission process is holistic - obviously you guys should know it better. A number of privates are driven on this diversity thing, so they are trying to get an all-round bunch of people from different backgrounds (ethnic, social-economic, etc.), with different extra-curricular interests, and these are the consequences. You could have applied to UK if you wanted only a stat-based evaluation.</p>
<p>Spktruth: " compassion" is certainly not a word for you!!! and why are you fighting so bad on CC? you are a very immature individual!!</p>
<p>^^^ for some reason, I think spktruth and murrah08 are the same people …murrah08 probably created a different account because he was getting bashed on this thread (4 out of 7 of spktruths post are on this thread)…I guess he wanted to make it seem like someone else was supporting his point of view on this thread…I know this is not the case and I am most likely wrong, but it would be hilarous if it were.</p>
<p>The statistics really don’t matter. What’s important is that you want to go to a college because you sincerely have an interest in it. I believe that if you want to go to a college simply due to it’s ranking or prestiege, you may be dissapointed and have an awful 4 years experience. There’s alot of other factors which come into play.</p>
<p>As for Emory, I could care less if it’s ranking decreases. Emory is indeed getting more difficult to get into, and all schools are due to the recession we’re experiencing and increase population/competition(:P). </p>
<p>I have visited Emory’s campus during the summer of 08 and stayed there for the NYLF Med forum for 10 days. I can honestly say that it’s an awesome school. It was so much fun seeing what college life was like, and Emory’s campus really is comforting. It’s actually one of my top universities I’m planning on applying to next year and that’s simply because I LOVE the school and want to go there because it seems like it’s one of the greatest places to study and live. </p>
<p>In short, I think people need to start considering what is actually important. Ranking shouldn’t be the main reason for choseing a college, and colleges can generally sense this in application.</p>
<p>To all those who were waitlisted, or rejected- it’s probably not because you were underqualified. Keep in mind Emory and many other colleges are getting more and more applications and they simply can’t accept everybody. They try to make it as fair as possible, and a 4.0 and perfect SAT’s won’t and can’t guarantee admission as high academics isn’t solely what they’re looking for. I believe that you all may have had awesome applications, but should keep in mind that there are too many qualified people applying nowadays and universities simply can’t accept everyone even if they wanted to. </p>
<p>I wish everyone the best of luck! :D</p>
<p>~ Theos</p>
<p>to be honest, what i think is that a lot of schools are waitlisting a lot of their applicants, simply because they do not want to be considered ivy reject schools. for example, i know that wash u waitlisted a lot of their stellar applicants/ uninterested applicants simply to build a strong freshman class that actually CARED about wash u. emory may be doing the exact same thing, or there may be other reasons that emory is acting the way it is.</p>
<p>Not gonna lie im not exactly a stellar student by terms of CC. 1900 SAT and 3.9 UW, lots of leadership and EC stuff though. Varsity soccer for two years and varsity tennis for 5. I took 9 AP’s and 7 Honors and did well on all of them. I think the reason I got in was because I showed interest forever, everything from visiting to sending emails. I also wrote very passionate essays, my “why emory” essay was about the strong sense of community that emory possessed. Also, my sister went there about 5 years ago, i am sure that helped too. But legacy status I don’t think put me over the top since my SAT was a mere 1280/1600. I’d say im defiantly smart enough to attend, I just cant test well for things like ACT and SAT. My SAT II’s were in the 700’s and i have all fours and five on AP’s. So I think its fair to say you need to be well rounded to get in, they take a holistic approach. They don’t want kids who are just all brains, or all volunteer, or all EC orientated, or all sports for that matter. They want a little of each.</p>
<p>I am a freshman in high school. I take honors classes and I plan on taking honors Spanish for all four years. Also, I plan on running in track to see where that may take me. Basically, what I received from the posts pertaining to this topic, is that it doesn’t matter if you are well rounded, are in the highest classes, and that you want to go to Emory. You still may be put on the wait-list and never get in. Plus, Emory did lose some of its prestige. Some apparent scandal. Welcome to 2013, things DO change after all.</p>
<p>Umm this thread is years old…</p>
<p>I’m guessing Highschooler is talking to himself in this thread</p>
<p>Actually no, I am not talking to myself. I was just offering my opinion to see if there would be any interesting responses. So far, none.</p>
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<p>That’s how it goes at selective colleges and universities.</p>
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<p>Were there some less than desirable events? Certainly. However, I don’t know that they’ve hurt our “prestige.” We’re ranked as high as ever; we received more applications this year than last; and I don’t think that employers view our students as any less desirable. Besides, tons of our peer schools are facing similar or worse scandals this year.</p>
<p>I never realized that. I was ranting on my previous post, frustrated with the amount of unfairness as the competitiveness grows to get in these colleges.</p>
<p>^Everybody is in the same boat. No need to feel frustrated or unfair. College admissions isn’t a game–it’s the real thing. Top colleges (ranked in top 20) consider you as a person–a human being–not just your stats. I wouldn’t want jerks getting into some place like Emory no matter what stats they have (as you’ve surfed these forums, you’ve probably noticed that there are some jerks on here–such as those people calling Oxford College students “Oxtards.” That is absolutely unnecessary no matter what stats, character, or ECs those students had to get in). Unfortunately, there are some high school seniors who are really good at gaming the system and slip through. However, the good news is that they’re in the small minority at top colleges and you can just ignore them once you’re there.</p>
<p>Are you serious? They consider you as a person. You are very naive.</p>
<p>[Emory</a> University Acknowledges Incorrect Admissions Data - NYTimes.com](<a href=“Emory University Acknowledges Incorrect Admissions Data - The New York Times”>Emory University Acknowledges Incorrect Admissions Data - The New York Times)
<a href=“On Long Island, SAT Cheating Was Hardly a Secret - The New York Times”>On Long Island, SAT Cheating Was Hardly a Secret - The New York Times;
<p>I said they consider you as a person. I did not say HOW they would consider you as a person, or their definition of a “person” or “human being.” I thought it would be obvious what I meant in the last post, because I said it in the context of top college admissions where there are a lot more qualified applicants than space available, but I guess I should clarify… </p>
<p>Utilitarianists define it as someone that has the capacity to feel (“know”) pain. Social contractionists, on the other hand, define a (real) person as anyone who is free, equal, and rational. Kantians stated that any rational and autonomous being is to be considered in the context of “human being,” no matter their species. (For those who do not know, these are the three biggest ethical/moral philosophy theories, among many others.) So my point is that a “person” can mean many different things, depending on your version of what constitutes a “person.” Top colleges obviously don’t admit just based on whatever their concepts of humanity is…</p>
<p>So what I meant is that Emory (and other top 20 colleges) admits the best from theirapplicantion pool who are within their rough statistical ballpark(s), albeit with a few exceptions, that also fit their definition(s) of what constitutes a good, successful “person/human being.” That is assessed by the university through the applicants’ essay (character, depth, quality, perspectiveetc.), extracurricular activities, leadership, awards, interviews, etc. again, with a few exceptions. If you are among the very small exceptions, great. If not, you can either complain, feel frustrated, angry, and blame whatever–all in vain–or you can learn what might be an important life lesson and move on.</p>
<p>For example, they’re not going to admit an average student who had very abusive, criminal parents, even if the student went through a lot of %$^& and admirably even became an average student at all. Yes, he may feel pain. Yes, he may be free, equal, rational, autonomous, whatever… But he doesn’t meet the rough, statistical qualifications that are also necessary in order to be admitted to a top 20 college.</p>
<p>(I don’t think there’s a correlation between the manipluation of admissions data and how they admit students. )</p>