<p>Saw this last night, it’s finally on the web. For any of you who wondered what it was like.</p>
<p><a href=“http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/04/video-steve-harrigan-gets-waterboarded-on-fox/[/url]”>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/04/video-steve-harrigan-gets-waterboarded-on-fox/</a></p>
<p>No thanks.</p>
<p>I can’t bring myself to watch it. I tried three times and turned it off three times.</p>
<p>One quote screamed out to me: “As far as torture goes… this seemed like an effective mechanism.” Indeed.</p>
<p>We must be whimps. Cheney says it’s just a little dunk in the water.</p>
<p>Welcome to the new America.</p>
<p>oh I must be out of the loop
I was thinking that it was like</p>
<p>[wakeboarding](<a href=“http://www.wakeboardingmag.com/index.jsp”>A Blast From Wake's Past | Wakeboarding Mag)</p>
<p>Well, if they were going to do it to Cheney…now THAT I would watch!</p>
<p>so who wants there sons and daughters subjected to that? anyone think its okay for their child?</p>
<p>I like the url: <a href=“http://hotair.com%5B/url%5D”>http://hotair.com</a> A reporter who can “tap out” if he’s too scared, and knows no one will hurt him is not what I’d call a valid scientific experiment to replicate the experience of an “enemy combatant”. As a general descriptive sense of some of the mechanical techniques used it may be accurate. As a description of “what it’s like” to be subjected to the process while being held by a hostile force who considers you to be a person without any rights - no, that’s not “what it’s like”. Think what this guy’s reaction would have been if he thought the guys might actually kill him.</p>
<p>As tempting as it is, I am not for waterboarding Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Feith, and a very long line of shills and enablers when they finally are booted for office.</p>
<p>I’ll leave it to the wardens of karma.</p>
<p>Fascinating psychological study. Some of you can’t even watch what is a standard military training procedure for a few minutes. Those of you who think that you have what it takes to guide our political leaders through a war with terrorists, but couldn’t watch to the end, missed the reporter’s final assessment–that it was all about fear, not about pain, and that minutes after being frightened beyond anything he’d ever experienced, he was standing by the pool feeling fine.</p>
<p>You Californians should make it a point to take a vacation at the Hotel del Coronado some time…you might catch a glimpse of a Navy BUDs class going through “Hell Week” en route to becoming SEALs. It will give you a whole new perspective on “torture” and what it takes to fight our worst enemies. Don’t worry, you can just sit on the porch drinking hot chocolate while you listen to the torture going on down on the beach. Loud noises, sleep deprivation, holding heavy objects overhead for extended periods, extended immersion in cold water, shouting, belly slaps—the whole nine yards.</p>
<p>Keep your thoughts coming. This is why so many don’t trust liberals to be able to handle national defense.</p>
<p>Actually, I enjoy a Bloody Mary when I’m listening to morning torture at the Del.</p>
<p>I’m sure our enemies didn’t know the kind of training that the Navy SEALs went through until you posted this, driver.</p>
<p>You and the NYT, sheesh.</p>
<p>sorry, I ‘broke’ 3 seconds in to watching Greta-liked her better ugly- Happily, there are stronger men able to withstand torture. I am grateful for their preparation.</p>
<p>I’d guess it’s an issue of control about what’s happening, but this reminded me a little of body surfing while growing up in So Cal. Or hanging out at the public pool with some rough kids. It’s not fun to be dunked, and I’m sure the real thing is worse, but I’ve been tossed around and held under the Pacific Ocean – now, THAT’s scary. As the reporter said, it’s an efficient way to get information without actually harming a person.</p>
<p>what did you tell those who held you under the ocean water, pacifically?</p>
<p>I once advocated torturing captured terrorists by putting them on our biggest, scariest roller coasters. <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=2955494&postcount=187[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=2955494&postcount=187</a></p>
<p>so who here who likes torture would want this to happen to you son or daughter…driver?</p>
<p>It’s happened to my brother, to my cousin, and to my nephew. And to several other friends and relatives. It really sucks, from what I hear–everyone breaks. Waterboarding, that is, not rollercoastering.</p>
<p>Driver, I know it’s your pet conceit that our armed forces experience “the same thing” as the waterboarding that is used in interrogating enemies. But the naked truth is that it isn’t the same. The simple fact that interrogation subjects have a legitimate fear of being killed by their interrogators makes a fundamental difference in itself. It’s possible to stand up to a lot of things when you know that you can opt out if you want, if you know that the people in charge really won’t let you get seriously hurt. If - God forbid - your brother, cousin or nephew were to be captured by insurgents in Iraq, blindfolded, taken to a dark hole in the ground, and subjected to the same things they’ve experienced in training, I guarantee that their actual experience would be far different than anything they’ve been through in San Diego. To begin with, they’d be likely to end up maimed or dead - a risk that’s pretty low in the shadows of the Hotel Del Coronado. Unfortunately, that’s a risk that’s just a little bit higher than it was before the chickenhawks took control of our policies. </p>
<p>Being an apologist for torture - even an “arch” apologist - is not an honorable role in life.</p>
<p>Now to mention it, I did see some BUDs being trained up in Magic Mountain. They all screamed for it to stop.</p>