<p>Wow. I’m sorry but i think you all need to walk around wal-mart for a couple hours, if you’ve got rolls in your britches, rolls on your knees, rolls on your back, and a large protruding portion of your stomach hangs lower than your genitals, you’re really obese.</p>
<p>I am just kind of average i suppose, not skinny, just got hips and boobs, and a bum. I’ve never had a problem dating.</p>
<p>Most women would kill for britney’s ‘fat’ ass.</p>
<p>I don’t really think that doing sports as a kid is going to build permanent muscle mass. The thing about the body is that it doesn’t want to support a large muscular base if it doesn’t have to. After you stop needing the muscle, you’ll atrophy to your natural size. It could increase bone density and thickness, though, which would contribute to weight.</p>
<p>I have no idea who Banting is, as I explained before, my formula is based off of girls I know/knew. </p>
<p>The nature of gymnastics lead to the development of muscles than almost any other sport. Playing sports doesn’t make you automatically muscular. There are tons of NFL wide receivers, NBA players, and MLB players who aren’t even as muscular as me or many of my friends, and we’re just plebians athletically (high school varsity level basketball, football, soccer, tennis. etc. players). </p>
<p>From what I can remember from the Olympics, the male gymnasts are definitely jacked. I don’t want to bring the female Olympic gymnasts into this, because many of them have been basically overtrained and starved to the point that they don’t even undergo puberty correctly or have it delayed. Not to say that the male gymnasts haven’t experienced similar hardship, it just seems that it’s more ostensible in the females. Although this has nothing to do with the original topic, would you agree with assessment of Olympic gymnasts, Johnson?</p>
<p>I never even defined obese, just slightly chubby and chubby. I never labeled Britney as fat, either.</p>
<p>I’ve seen slightly chubby girls that I’ve found very attractive, but their bodies aren’t ideal, IMO. I probably wouldn’t even consider someone of Britney’s physique that I posted. </p>
<p>Women don’t need to kill anyone for Britney’s figure, or even jennie garth’s. Unless you have some sort of auto-immune disorder like hashimoto’s (which you’ll need treatment for, or you’ll die). Most women just need to put down the krispy kremes and get serious about their diet and exercising. The same can be said for men.</p>
<p>In terms of Body Mass Index - which is used by doctors to assess health risks and height/weight ratio, anything over 25 is “overweight”, any BMI over 30 is obese and a BMI over 35 is morbidly obese.</p>
<p>[Calculate</a> your BMI - Standard BMI Calculator](<a href=“http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/]Calculate”>http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/)</p>
<p>Now there are limitations with the BMI - it doesn’t take in to account gender, and the actual body type you have or the level of activity you do, but it works well as a screening tool and there’s a boatload of scientific data to support that BMI’s over 25 have increased risk of things like heart attacks, stroke and diabetes - just by being heavier.</p>
<p>A quick and dirty formula most doctors use to calculate “ideal” body weight is this:</p>
<p>For women 100 pounds for 5 feet, then 5 pounds for each additional inch. </p>
<p>So if you’re 5’ 4" it works out to 120</p>
<p>For guys - 106 pounds for the first 5 feet, then 6 pounds for each additional inch.</p>
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Writer of the first diet book, pretty much (he’s basically one of the people that started the obsession in women to diet). (My high school requires that we take a women’s history class senior year).</p>
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For the most part, although there are weird exceptions. If you’re anywhere near that level of talent, and you’re in the gym 30+ hours a week you’re bound to end up jacked and affecting puberty somewhat.<br>
On another off topic note, studies have shown that high impact sports (impact on your legs; gymnastics, dance, the field portion of track & field) can affect a girls height. Rather than energy being spent to make her legs longer, it’s spent to make her leg bones denser.</p>
<p>Got a link to those studies? The recent studies that I’ve read haven’t found any correlation with stunted growth and weightlifting or high impact sports. That was a myth from poor studies done in the 70s. The only thing that can stunt growth is an injured growth plate (at least according to paediatricians), which is pretty rare, and the stunted growth would be erratic and only on the injured limb.</p>
<p>However, I did read about a correlation with bone density.</p>
<p>I read the studies a few months ago, so I lost the links. They concluded what you noted about stunted growth, but also noted that there were definite cases of this being a possibility (although affecting only a small percentage). The original basis for the idea was that a good chunk of these athletes had average lengthed torso’s, yet their legs were shorter than average.</p>
<p>However, as you noted the correlation with bone density was much clearer.</p>
<p>Hmmm, weird. The people that will continue in those sorts of athletics are pretty mesomorphic, though, which have shorter limbs than ectomorphs. So that could contribute to the shorter limbs in proportion. Still interesting, though.</p>
<p>From what I recall, the study didn’t note anything about arms being shorter (the study was late 1990’s I believe).</p>
<p>Yeah- it’s fairly self-selective. You can’t really be 5’8’’ in gymnastics on the female side; you’re body just won’t be able to tumble/vault/whatever as fast. Even Svetlana Khorkina (the gymnast who is always described as being ridiculously tall) is only 5’5.</p>
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<p>20 % body fat</p>
<p>^ Body fat percentages are entirely different for males and females (I have to assume you’re underestimating the difference if you’re using 20% as the baseline for a “chubby” girl). </p>
<p>[Recommended</a> Body Weights and Percent Body Fat Contents for Women](<a href=“http://www.nutribase.com/fwchartf.shtml]Recommended”>http://www.nutribase.com/fwchartf.shtml)</p>
<p>^ This website gives a decent overview, showing a number of different organizations’ “ideal”/“normal” height/weight charts. I’m not standing by the numbers…just trying to throw in a few more sources. The site also gives a small body fat chart at the bottom (it characterizes 20% as “lean” for females, “above average/overfat” for males…looking the info up on other sites, that seems pretty typical). The best point the site makes is one that’s been made a few times in this thread, and that is that</p>
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<p>For the love of God, please don’t take advice on this issue from this thread (or ideally, from any internet forum).</p>
<p>whoa… i did that formula thing on post #11 and it said my ideal weight is 147.5 (plus or minus 4)… yikes i’m really 133 and trying to lose weight. i’m assuming this is in pounds?</p>
<p>its about how you look…not an ideal weight. If you’re happy, healthy, comfortable and can particpate in all the stuff you want to, then you’re good. </p>
<p>And don’t worry too much about guys…all the “ideal body” stuff is ********…if they like you, they’ll like you; they don’t sit around scrutinizing your weight. My BF’s ultimate perfect body crush is Keira Knightley…he also loves my figure as well, and I couldn’t be more differnet from her (5’6", 135 pounds, boobs)…</p>
<p>That’s not completely true, horsegirl. I’m only willing to compromise to a certain extent. I know that fitness is something that most people have control over, so I definitely set standards for it. I mean, what you said is true. If I like you, I’ll like you. But I’d be repulsed by someone overweight and wouldn’t like them to begin with.</p>
<p>I do know guys that don’t really care, though.</p>
<p>ah, I should clarify…I was referring to body types within the realm of “healthy.” My point was that people may have preferences for thinner girls or curvier girls (curvy as in boobs/ass, not as a euphimism for hefty), but at the end of the day, as long as you’re healthy and fit, preferences are just icing on the cake. Obviously if you’re hugely fat and out of shape, that’s an entirely different issue.</p>
<p>Yeah, I agree with that. I’d be more put off by a chick ate like crap, wasn’t active, and didn’t put any effort into controlling her weight than anything. I still wish that I could edit that kate winslet picture. I’m sure that I made a bunch of girls in here insecure by posting it. Personality and face are the most important things to me, but like I said, there is only a certain range of figures that I’ll consider.</p>
<p>Yeah I saw that Kate Winslet picture and thought she looked amazing. I agree with you, though girls rarely believe the “personality and face” deal.</p>
<p>I think if you’re 5’4" female and 125 you are chubby or on the verge of it. Especially if you actually did gain 15lbs from the Freshman 15. Since you are concious of your weight, I guess you should lose 5lbs and keep it off. If you want to do more, fine, but don’t obsess over it either. </p>
<p>Also, just saying you should lose some weight because gaining 15lbs(I’m assuming this is mostly fat) over a year isn’t exactly healthy, not unless you were underweight before or are pregnant.</p>