we dont need USMMA

<p>We don't really need Kings Point. I think we should get rid of it. Here is why. People go to Kings Point b/c they want to be officers in Armed Forces (e.g Navy, Army, Air Force, and Coast Guard). Why Don't they just go to Service Academies or do ROTC? Because they are not good enough to make into those. Also, people want to sail. However, there are 7 maritime schools in the U.S. When I think about it, U.S are spending our people's taxes on useless school. I bet U.S will not have problem if we get rid of KP. No one knows about that school anyways. If u wanna be an officer, go to naval, air force, military academies. Or simply do ROTC.</p>

<p>hm.</p>

<p>maybe it's because you want to be a merchant mariner. </p>

<p>why have west point when we have places like VMI?</p>

<p>Just let you know IBfootballer, I go to kings point, and I dislike it.</p>

<p>you're also a plebe that hasn't seen the benefits of this school. </p>

<p>plain and simple tls, you're a moron. have you been to sea? no. have you experienced the great satisfaction of being able to go home and show that you're competent to do things most of your peers can't? nope.
until you know what you're talking about, please be quiet.</p>

<p>if you hate it so much why are you there? Also I dont think the country would be better off by getting rid of a school. Its not schools that are drowning the country into an abyss of debt. If anything the return is pretty good. Anyways I'm going to be at KP in about 17 days didn't you no what you were getting into?</p>

<p>tls maybe you should just quit if u hate it so much. save us all the trouble</p>

<p>KP2009, as you know, tls most likely won't ever see graduation. My guess is he's been in trouble since he started, most likely on restriction, and is struggling with academics. It's too bad. There are always a few rotten apples in the bag. </p>

<p>Is2day you made some great observations, unfortunately I don't think anything will change this child's mind. It is just sad because he took someone's spot that really wants to be at KP.</p>

<p>TLS, you look like 2 yr. old throwing a temper tantrum. It's simple leave. It's your life tls. Don't torture yourself. KP isn't for everyone. It won't change for you. USMMA has made a name for itself as a institution that produces top qualitity officers that serve the nation and the martitme industry for almost 70 yrs. So maybe you should look in the mirror instead of playing the blame game. I hope you find a path that takes you were you want. Good Luck!</p>

<p>tlswogh89,</p>

<p>You really are an idiot. Obviously you had some sort of traumatic experience here, or simply can't just hack it. Also, you being a plebe with your infinite wisdom seem to have this school figured out. You make all of these ridiculous comments that have no basis on any sort of truth. For example:</p>

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<li><p>Many people, including myself, applied to and were accepted to other service academies. Some simply wanted to come here for a variety of reason, especially for the flexibility of service.</p></li>
<li><p>Although there are 5 other maritime schools, not everyone graduates as a licensed officer. Great Lakes maritime graduate less than 40 students a year, and about half of SUNY Maritime actually participate in their regimental program for to get their license. </p></li>
<li><p>Many students from the other maritime schools that do participate in the regiment (to get their license) also are part of the USNR/MMR program, and the govt. subsidizes a considerable portion of their education. Also, all of those schools have ships that are paid for by MARAD, including costs for fuel, upkeep and operations. The taxpayers are paying for their education as well.</p></li>
<li><p>Even though the deep sea fleet is not getting any bigger, the brown water industry is expanding rapidly (was, at least before the recession). KP is helping to fill that void of licensed operators. Also, there are many foreign flag LNG companies that KPers and other licensed graduates are crewing on (like myself, at least until I start Army training).</p></li>
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<p>I could go on and on. You are way to ignorant and naive to realize the importance and value of this education. You have no idea what sea is like. You haven't networked and met powerful alumni. </p>

<p>As my parting gift to this school, I am sending a mass email to all users indicating what you said. You better hope that they don't figure out who you are, but I think I have a pretty good idea. I suggest that you quit now because KP, the industry and the military have no use for some worthless garbage like yourself.</p>

<p>Ahh. TLS. I understand your motivation. Third Trimester grades have just been posted.
We all wish you well at your next university.</p>

<p>You guys are just being angry at him because he thinks the school isn't worth it, not because it's wrong. I'm not exactly an authority on the academy, but I do think it's worth it to have an academy that trains merchant sailors who can safely navigate vessels and serve in convoys in time of war.</p>

<p>and why have an academy?</p>

<p>for the same reason we have all other military academies.</p>

<p>Go to TLS's profile and view his older posts. </p>

<p>TLS, about a year ago, you were asking questions and having high hopes for USMMA. Not only that but, in a thread entitled, "If you had a full scholarship to any college, where would you go?" you replied, "United States Merchant Marine Academy". Now look where you are. A year later, you are bashing a service academy that you claim shouldn't exist. Its sad to see someone's attitude change drastically in a couple months. Maybe KP wasn't the right fit for you and just as zonker said, farewell at the next university you attend.</p>

<p>As I recall, 450 started in July 1947 and only 173 graduated four years later. I suggest this child quit right now and maybe start over in junior college.</p>

<p>I hate to "pile on " here but TLS it was obvious from your very first post that you had no idea what you were getting yourself into. Furthermore, every attempt to set you straight made by people on this board was unsuccessful. I told you when you were still an applicant that if you went to KP with the wrong attitude that place would eat you alive. I hate to say "I told you so" but...............</p>

<p>Found this old post thanks to Zonker--TLSWOG posted this December 08.</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=616768&referrerid=90484%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=616768&referrerid=90484&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>yikes...son...please back up and take a few moments to realize..the usmma was not right for you...and get over it...obviously you had the potential....but not for any academy...take what you have learned and go forward...</p>

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<p>Why apply to ROTC programs, ultimately to join a military branch whose core values include Honesty/Integrity/Personal Responsibility, when you are evading the truth on an application? Some (granted HARD) lessons have yet to be learned. DON'T falsify your application... the only person you are really deceiving is yourself, and you are taking a valuable slot for someone else who REALLY wanted to be there.</p>

<p>For ANYONE considering an academy path/ROTC/or any other path to service, stand up and assess what YOU really want to do -- not what you think others want you to do, not what your parents want you to do, not what you think would look cool to be from.
Follow what is in your heart.</p>

<p>And the best of luck to those who decide to test their mettle.</p>

<p>Don't be known as 'That Lying Student WithOut Genuine Honor"</p>

<p>Heck, even hard knocks teach us something about ourselves, if we are willing to own the lesson.</p>

<p>USMMA Motto: "Acta , non verba" (deeds, not words). They really mean it.</p>

<p>well said and researched zonker. This kid is all over the map...WOO 2 weeks!!!</p>

<p>ditto well said zonker. TLS is probably having 2nd or third thoughts and can not or will not accept any responsibilty. Hopefully he will not presue the military I don't think I want him watching my kids back. Thinking about lying on applications, asking about getting caught. If you don't do the crime you don't have to worry about serving the time or paying the fine. I hope TLS finds his way and becomes truthful with himself and others.</p>

<p>tls - Out here in the real word any gap in a resume or CV has to be accounted for. I seriously doubt you'll be able to get by with a "do over."</p>