<p>objectiveperson, again, why are you here? You’ve graduated, move on with your life. You time and time again draw general rules about life from specific events. You know that this is flawed methodology and that is why I call you a ■■■■■.</p>
<p>You are here to make a statement rather than help people looking for advice. Stop the generalizations, stop the trolling.</p>
<p>Ok, WOW. This is crazy. For the record, my initial concern was about “weird” people…all I wanted to do was make friends!!! The general consensus that I’ve made is that every school has its niches where most everyone can fit in, so I think I’ll be fine. It’s just that now I don’t really see myself fitting in with my own “friends” anymore - you see, somehow it leaked that I told my APUSH teacher about some cheating that had been going on (and still is) and now the people I used to call my friends do not even look at me. I believe in standing up when everyone else backs down, so I do not regret what I did. I’m sick of high school and all the students’ antics. And they don’t look at me because THEY’RE the ones who cheat. Some friends.</p>
<p>“Stand up for what you believe in, even if you’re standing alone.”</p>
<p>And I really don’t care about many of my so-called peers anymore because GUESS WHAT?! In 9 months from now, I’m outta here. Except for my 2 friends.</p>
<p>And also, one of my friends who I actually care about is acting different lately. He scored a perfect 800 and a perfect 36 on ACT and SAT math, and he applied to Harvard and MIT, so he’s a little full of it at the moment. He’s still great to hang out with though. He’s also valedictorian. :)</p>
<p>And he admitted that he can’t read. One thing he can’t do. :)</p>
<p>I had two kids at Chicago. One loved Scav Hunt to distraction, the other wished it would fall off the face of the Earth. They both loved the University of Chicago.</p>
<p>I would say this: Anyone thinking of applying to Chicago ought to check out a recent Scav Hunt list. If you think it’s one of the funniest things you’ve ever read – that was my reaction, the first time I saw one – you have about a 100% chance of really loving Chicago. If you think it sounds dorky and ridiculous, you would be in the majority of Chicago students, but you would have to look for some other indication of whether you would like Chicago or not.</p>
<p>IloveUofC, Telling someone to leave a thread because they don’t share your view is not the best argument.</p>
<p>Actually, OhioMom3000, I was asking objectiveperson to stop posting entirely because his main objective, as it were, is to ■■■■■ the forum here with generalized negative comments about UChicago. He apparently holds a grudge against the school, wished that he had transferred out as an undergrad, and yet keeps posting negative comments based on out-of-date experiences under the guise of “helping” others.</p>
<p>I would have no problems with his comments if they were sincerely meant to help others but his case, I’m afraid their main purpose is to smear the school to exact some measure of payback for some perceived offense.</p>
<p>objectiveperson:</p>
<p>I wonder why you choose to dwell on those specific facts. I could look at any situation, any institution and come up with events that may be looked at in a not so positive light. Do these specific incidents define the institution? Certainly not and yet you make the logical jump that the specific defines the rule with no evidence to back up your conclusions. The only glue tying together these incidents is your anger at the university. You are being disingenuous if you cannot see this and that is exactly why I call you a ■■■■■.</p>
<p>There is no perfect university and I see no harm in presenting both positive as well as negative aspects of the university. Leave it up to the reader to decide what is relevant and what is not. U of C is strong enough to take a few hits by Objective. No need to silence him/her.</p>
<p>Anyone interested in the “student body elected a man who ate his own umbilical cord” argument should check out what percentage of the student body votes in elections for student government. In most classes, I think the turnout is single-digits. For good or ill, one of the characteristics of the University of Chicago is that very few people give a hang about student government. That’s very frustrating to student-government types, and for the most part they tend to avoid Chicago. Some wind up there anyway, either by mistake or because nowhere else accepts them.</p>
<p>I agree with OhioMom. Seriously, no uni is perfect; every school has its faults. Even UChicago. I agree, some people would hate it, and some would think it’s the best choice they made in their life; both opinions are perfectly acceptable! No matter if you like UChicago or you despise it, I applied there regardless and so have many others. One negative opinion about one school in not going to keep them from applying and even attending if applicable. The biggest fault for me is a party environment; but guess what!? There are substance free dorms/floors at most schools! Besides, I’ve made up the statistic that I have a 6% chance of getting into UC - oh well! 18/100 kids get in!!! It’s a miracle for anyone to get in! I can’t hang my head around it! Dwell on it!</p>
<p>Phil Caruso LOST when he ran for SG President, if that helps your self esteem.</p>
<p>JHS: Actually, this is one of the things that seems to be changing with the times, if I understand you correctly. There was a record for number of students running for 2015 class rep this year (something like 15-20) and I’m not sure what the voter turnout was but from what I understand it couldn’t possibly have been a single-digit number.</p>
<p>Now, does the class as a whole care about student government? That’s likely not to have changed.</p>
<p>"…it couldn’t possibly have been a single-digit number."</p>
<p>Right, it would have at least been 20. If turn out equaled number of running mates, would have been quite funny.</p>
<p>I meant single-digits in percentage, not absolute numbers! I remember seeing numbers a few years ago where fewer than 10% of the classes other than first-years voted. Maybe that’s changed.</p>
<p>I didn’t realize the candidate being discussed above was Phil Caruso. He was exactly who I was thinking about when I wrote about student-government types being frustrated by Chicago, because nobody takes them seriously.</p>
<p>Is this the same Phil Caruso who is currently working on a joint JD/MBA degree at UChicago? </p>
<p>He seems like a very impressive guy.</p>
<p>Reading through this thread was fantastic.
Objective person is my hero, although I appreciate the arguments presented by both sides.</p>
<p>funcomes2apply, Clever screen name!</p>
<p>I’d like to say something: I was deferred at UChicago 22/23 ACT. Yeah, I was actually deferred with a 22 ACT where there are also kids with 30+ who are rejected/deferred. First of all, I’ll commend them for doing so well on a test that I struggled with. I’d just like to say that test scores aren’t everything; I had a successful interview and I think that’s what did it. I wrote to the best of my ability and my recs were probably positive. I may not be the brightest bulb in the pack, but they saw something in me that kept them from rejecting me. </p>
<p>Also, this is for all those kids who chastised me a few months ago for even thinking about applying here when I mistakinly posted my stats: who has a chance? This guy! </p>
<p>For future students out there with low ACT scores: DON’T LOSE HOPE!!!</p>
<p>Have a merry christmas and good luck with college searches!</p>
<p>rbouwens:</p>
<p>The single most important factor in any field of endeavour is that intangible quality called “creativity”. Whether you’re a pro athlete, a musician, a surgeon, TV producer or academic, it is that creative spark that changes the world. The adcom at UChicago clearly saw something different about you that did not easily fit into a preconceived notion of academic potential. No matter how this specific decision turns out, never forget that you perhaps have the very rare gift of originality. Put this talent to good use!</p>
<p>Thank you so much! I’m not 100% sure where I’ll matriculate in the fall because I won’t know about all of my schools until April, but I’ve been accepted to one that I’d be willing to go to, Beloit. I think it’ll all work out…</p>
<p>except…</p>
<p>Now I’m not worried about “weird kids”…I’m worried about the well-to-do ones! Watching videos online of Yale’s students, all I could think of was “wow, they’re all dressed so nicely and they have perfect hair” lol. They’re obviously well-off, not that that means anything or is a bad thing, but IDK…I kind of have a curious perspective of “preppy kids.” I’ve never actually met one, but I’m just worried.</p>
<p>I’m worried because I’m now considering a few Eastern schools and they’re “preppy” according to guide books and sites. Some are Dickinson, ConnColl, and Trinity.</p>
<p>I’m fairly down-to-earth and I come from a family of modest means. We own 1 house, we have a small ski boat, haha. We don’t have a beach house, a yacht, etc, haha. I never even heard of J. Crew before researching colleges. Not that kids from these backgrounds are bad at all, but I’m just not used to them.</p>
<p>I just think that my sense of identity is being screwed up. I don’t really know where I’d fit in, and when I was researching those Eastern schools, I think I may have been trying to be someone I’m not. Maybe.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>