<p>do you guys know the admission rates for wharton and cornell’s AEM program?</p>
<p>another question… what do you guys know about the frat scene at upenn? i read in yale’s college guide that the frat scene is really big everyone’s social lives is basically consumed by it. is that true? i know that no one forces you to join a frat, but would i be a social outcast if i didn’t join one?</p>
<p>also, are there good professional co-ed frats on campus? i would be interested in joining one of those.</p>
<p>Wharton’s admit rate is something like 17% I believe, but don’t quote me on that.</p>
<p>the social frat scene is big, but this doesn’t mean you have to go greek to participate in frat parties, not by a long shot. </p>
<p>There are three professional co-ed frats on campus.</p>
<p>Delta Sigma Pi is the oldest, AKpsi’s chapter was established in the latter portion of the 90’s, and Phi Gamma Nu was established like… a year or two ago, I’m not sure.</p>
<p>I am partial to DSP… because I am a brother there :)</p>
<p>hey aranaxon!</p>
<p>im planning on applying to wharton ED but i don’t know what my chances are of getting in. here are my stats, could you tell me what you think (i posted these stats in other forums too)?</p>
<p>GPA – 3.77/4.0 (unweighted), 6.56/6.93 (weighted)
rank – 26/545 (competitive nj school)
SAT – 1580 (old SATs), 2340 (new SATs)
chem SAT II (790), math sat II (740)
stat AP (5), chem AP (5)</p>
<p>i plan to take spanish, bio, and lit sat II’s in the fall and i take the most difficult classes at my school. in senior year i’m taking 6 honors or AP classes.</p>
<p>EC’s
top ten at DECA Nationals (business competition)
research at drexel university (will enter siemens westinghouse competition in fall)
secretary of junior statesmen of america (JSA)
vice president of cum laude society (honors society at my school)
editor of yearbook
editor of newspaper
7 model un conferences (won awards for position papers, chaired for some conferences)
qualified for some nation-wide math competitions
did CTY (center for talented youth - a summer program) in middle school
did business academy junior year and interned at an accounting firm for 60 hours over the summer and plan to do business academy again senior year
went to northwestern journalism summer program this summer
plan to work as a secretary at kaplan during this coming school year</p>
<p>i’m really interested in double majoring in marketing and design. do you know a lot of wharton students who do this? i’m particularly interested in textiles and apparel… i’m looking at the penn website right now to see if they offer classes like history of fashion. it would be my dream to market for a designer label!</p>
<p>stats wise your chances aren’t bad, your rank is good, and it seems you’ve taken a pretty rigorous courseload.</p>
<p>My gut says’ you’re admitted for sure if you apply ED, especially if you play up your interest in your major. In truth, most whartonites do Finance as their major (something like 4/5 of the class does finance as a concentration) but it seems the administration is trying to get away from this. The undergraduate dean is actually a marketing professor if I’m not mistaken.</p>
<p>w.r.t to design… I don’t know if there is a “design” major in the college - MRKT is a wharton concentration however… I’m sure there will be some sort of fashion-related major (e.g. I know SEAS has digital media design, which is pretty popular among the artsy types - pixar recruits from them i’ve heard) maybe urban studies in CAS.</p>
<p>best of luck, if you have any questions post away, and if I can help more i’ll do my best.</p>
<p>Is it true marketing is a joke major?</p>
<p>There isn’t a market “major” at penn, only a concentration of 4 classes, so even if you want to concentrate in marketing, you’d still take the core.</p>
<p>Wharton overall acceptance rate was 13.6%</p>
<p>and not to crush your dreams, but i wouldn’t say you’d be
not because you’re not qualified enough, but because you can never know “for sure”</p>
<p>as of now you’re pretty good except for perhaps rank. write some good essays!</p>
<p>Ok, i qualified it with a “my gut” :)</p>
<p>Even so, I’d still say you have a significantly stronger chance, esp with ED and an angular planned concentration.</p>
<p>Cornell’s Applied economics program (AEM) is on par or even better than Wharton’s business programs. However, for everything else, Wharton is superior. </p>
<p>If you get accepted into Cornell’s AEM program, it’s worth selecting that over Wharton. However, Wharton is better for all other business majors.</p>
<p>Cornell’s AEM program is very competitive however, with an acceptance rate of 19%. </p>
<p>Good luck</p>
<p>I actually talked with an AEM the other day, at my local fourth tier university, we were both taking a summer Statistics class.</p>
<p>I don’t understand where your coming from to say AEM is better than Wharton though - their recruitment is certainly strong, but this can be said of any engineering/economics/finance major coming out of the ivies.</p>
<p>I dunno much about Cornell AEM, but here in Cornell, everyone thinks it is somewhat of a joke because the median grades of the AEM courses are really inflated compared to the courses in the hard sciences department. The Cornell Daily Sun’s Antman comic strip occasionally mentions AEM.</p>
<p>AEM better than Wharton…lol</p>
<p>thanks for the laugh. </p>
<p>It’s not even in the same league…give it 10 years and it will be up there with stern, ross, haas…</p>
<p>bern700,</p>
<p>AEM is still part of cornell, you speak of it as if it were bad. I would say that the two would be comparable, although Wharton may have more prestige.</p>
<p>I know it’s still part of cornell, I looked into the program when I applied although it was a brand new program. I saw many flaws in it but this is because it’s a new program. That’s why I said that given 10 years it will definitely be able to provide as good a business edu as stern, haas, ross, wharton, etc. </p>
<p>right now it’s just too new. Their recruiting is good but the other guys’s assertion that being admitted to both going to cornell is the better option is just ignorant. If it’s a better fit for him then fine no problem there but saying that the edu is better is a joke. sorry.</p>
<p>what is the AEM program specifically? would it be a good fit for me, considering my strong interest in marketing?</p>
<p>in regard to my rank, i don’t know what happened, but sophomore year my grades sunk. it was really upsetting but hey, its over now and i have to deal with it and try my best (: thats always my outlook on things. that rank is an old number though. i got all A’s my junior year, so if you add that in, it may have increased to 20-21. i don’t know if that improves my chances a lot, but i think its a plus to see my grades increase significantly.</p>
<p>thanks for all the input guys, i really appreciate it! i’m so confused, but i hope i can straighten it out and make a good decision for ED.</p>
<p>definetely go to Wharton, coming from a cornellian, its just the most prestigious name out there…</p>
<p>Whether you like it or not, AEM at Cornell is equivalent to the business programs at Wharton and I think it may be slightly more interesting then Wharton. I have examples of people who went there and graduated, some in my own family. AEM also has an extraordinarily high amount their undergrads working for the best i-banks in the country and so does Wharton. Both of them have a superior reputation. </p>
<p>Some think AEM is quite easy but it isn’t. My cousin sister went there. She had a perfect SAT score and was very intelligent. Sure, she walked out with a 3.88 GPA in the end but had to work her butt off. She had to pull many all nighters and during the final exams’ weeks, she averaged 2-3 hours of sleep a day. She struggled and succeeded. Her first year out, she worked for Deutsh bank and banked around 80K. Many of her fellow classmates from the AEM program are just like her. </p>
<p>The program is excellent for preparing an individual in the field of i-banking. If you want to be a damn good i-banker and have the skills it takes to get promoted up the chain fast, you need a damn good, rigorous undergraduate program. AEM will provide you with that. Also, I heard the program is extremely interesting and motivating. People collaborate with each other, build communication and writing skills, and significantly develop their critical thinking abilities. Also, they limit the AEM size every year to a relatively small undergraduate class to unsure personal attention from top notch faculty. My cousin said she had the best profs ever and they went out of their way to help her. Today, she credits her survival in the ruthless and competitive world of i-banking to her rigorous and priceless education she received through AEM. </p>
<p>Sure, Wharton is just as good but I personally would choose AEM over Wharton. I think it’s a tad bit more interesting.</p>
<p>I will acknowledge that Wharton is superior in all other business aspects. Meaning finance, marketing, whatever…However, Wharton’s undergraduate programs are not superior to AEM at Cornell. Maybe you should look into the program and find out what kind of companies recruit from it, job replacement rate, etc… before making useless arguments about its prestige. As far as I’m concerned, whoever called me ignorant is the real idiot because he can’t back up whatever he’s saying. AEM still is the most competitive program at Cornell however and all this talk is useless if you can’t get accepted into it. Your chances of getting into AEM are probably the same or even slightly lower than getting into Wharton undergrad.</p>
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<p>bball87, maybe you should stop kissing Wharton’s ass and recognize the strengths in your own institution</p>
<p>And Wharton may be one of the most prestigious but there are others just as good. The business programs at Harvard, Stanford, Sloan, Yale, Princeton recognized just as well. Furthermore, there is more to life than prestige. How well a program trains you, how well it prepares you for the real world - these are also VERY important factors. All the ivy league schools are reputable but within these schools, certain ones train you better than others. After a few years at the i-bank, you will speak for yourself; your alma-mater won’t speak for you. Your promotion and career from there on are up to YOU, not your “prestigious” institution. When you succeed in life, you’ll thank your profs when they made you bust your ass off to learn and grow in intellect; you’ll realize that’s what made all the difference. Only a part of that was the “prestige”. </p>
<p>If you get into AEM, go for it. You will never regret the decision.</p>
<p>eternity, AEM is a great program, but for G-D’s sake, it is only 3-5 years old. IN a few years, it will be absolutely amazing, but as of now, wharton is the most prestigious name out there.</p>