<p>The reputation of Williams scares most people in my country from applying but I applied anyway.Can anyone please tell me if I have a chance of being considered. my stats are listed below.</p>
<p>SAT: 2100/2400 (730V 710M 660W) THEY ARE NOT STELLAR BUT i TOOK THEM WITHOUT PREP oR THE sat TEXT BOOK.
sAT II: 770 chem , 660 mathII c
Toefl : 290/300
class rank : 5/343
Gpa: 3.93</p>
<p>Extracurricular activities
Chemistry club
chess club
Innovators club
Junior achievement
soccer
press club</p>
<p>Nigerians do not have as many opportunities for extracurricular activities. I also want to find out if Williams considers the country an applicant comes from. Most people in country cannot scale the 1400/1600 mark not to talk of 1500/1600</p>
<p>I have already applied. I was just asking so as to alleviate my anxiety. Williams is very competitive and I also observed that the percentage of africans(9%) is significantly lower than the number of asians (47%) . Are asians really smarter than africans. Any time I slept in my Biology class my teacher always admonished me by telling me to emulate the asians. When are you applying? Since you’re American I’m sure you would have no problem getting into Williams. International students really have a hard time entering elite colleges in America.</p>
<p>sefago: Getting into Williams is just TOUGH, period. I don’t think it’s necessarily easier or harder if you’re an international student, whether from Africa or Asia. </p>
<p>That said, when i applied, i faced the same problem regarding extracurricular activities, as Bangladesh too has very few opportunities for ECs relative to high schools in developed countries. I asked that at my information session, and the admissions personnel conducting it reassured me that Williams aware of and does consider the problems faced by international students, especially those from developing countries/LDCs likes ours, since they do have a very diverse applicant pool and student body. </p>
<p>noxious: doesn’t that sound way too high?..i think they mean 47% of the international students.</p>
<p>sefago: you might get in; i’m not saying you will because the only people who know are the admissions counselors and God (if you’re religious). but i got in, and my class had 79 students and I don’t know my actual rank but I do know that I wasn’t even one of the top 39 students (it is a competitive school but still). and i’m not a legacy, or from an urban area, or an athlete, or anything like that (although i am asian). so, really, i think after you reach that level when you’re “good enough” it just becomes a lottery for most of the applicants (but there will be particularly outstanding applicants). so with your stats i’d say you’re good enough, especially because you’re from nigeria as opposed to a highly competitive country such as japan, korea, china, india, france, whatever. it just depends on whether or not you get lucky! (i think so anyway)
p.s. the percentage of asians is 9%, same as african-american.
p.p.s. i sleep all the time in my lit and statistics classes even though i’m asian.</p>
<p>sorry I caused such brouhaha . I was talking about percentage of Asian International students at Williams. I am still not convinced I have much of a chance at Williams.Anyway does Williams send an email when one’s application documents are complete. I have only received the purple post card.</p>
<p>they do both. But the cute purple postcard with the picture of a cow sticking its bum out seals the deal. It’s the official proof that you are an applicant. You will also get an ID in the purple postcard which will become your student ID if you are accepted.</p>
<p>noxiousnirvana did you get into Williams . What are your stats. I just received an email from WIlliams on the 7th of march informing me that my high school transcript which I sent to Williams was missing from my file! It seems my chances are dwindling fast. Can you explain the significance of the early writes to me.</p>
<p>I got into Williams ED.Class of 2010. Applied as an international. Had a solid academic record - GPA 4.0 unweighted, class rank 1/29 in one school and 2/200 sthin in another one, good standardised test scores, a few national awards, involvement in sport and i think a decent essay (not stellar though). My reccomendations were excellent i think, teachers stressed on my sense of humour (i kinda want to be a professional comedian you see) and my peer evaluation was also really good. But there was nothing out of the world in my application.Just solid. Apart from the fact that it was really really messy. And i wrote almost all the dates wrong (2004, instead of 2005 etc etc) But no harm done. </p>
<p>I dont think you need to wory about the transcript, just send it again through DHL or something (dont use regular post).</p>
<p>I don’t know much about Early Writes. I think the only significance is that u stop suffering from nervous diarrhea a month earlier. Check out <a href=“http://www.williams.edu%5B/url%5D”>www.williams.edu</a> for details about the Early Write. </p>
<p>Stuff gets lost all the time in international mails sefago; don’t let that discourage you at all, just resend them using FedEx or DHL…it should get there in 2-3 days. Have you replied to their mail (or is it one of those that says please don’t reply because our volume of correspondence is so huge?). If you haven’t, you could email them back saying that you already sent it, so it must have gotten lost in the mailing process, but that it’s not a problem, you’re resending it and they should get it in/by…</p>
<p>As for the early writes:
Normally, Williams mails admission decision letters in early April. However, a small number of highly qualified applicants are informed of their acceptance to Williams “early” - that is late february/early march.
Williams usually selects close to a thousand (I’m not sure what the exact figure is) students to give admission to; once the process is over, the admitted class features 520-40 students. This year they admitted 221 candidates early decision, so approx 40% of the Class of 2010 is already booked. Add to that the soaring early write figures, and it means fewer students are likely to receive acceptance letters in April. It also means the applicant pool is very strong this year. I hope that answers your question? </p>
<p>You can hardly be blamed for your transcript getting lost in the mail; really, don’t let it get you down. You still have a fair chance :)</p>
<p>WOW, people Nigeria heard of Williams! I thought Williams was a little farm school that nobody outside of American academic circles heard of. Anyways, I doubt anyone in China heard of Williams. Even the average Chinese Americans here in the US rarely knows of Williams, or any liberal arts school for that matter. All they ever talk about is H, Y, P, UC Berk, U Maryland (lots of Chinese), and MIT. lol. Anyway, back on topic. There’s this small group of Asians who for some God unknown reason are super over achievers— I think it’s their crazy parents that pushes them like nuts; this in turn causes average Asians like me to be held at a higher standard in American college admissions. So if your an average Nigerian, you at least don’t have to suffer from this kind of sterotype. And if you’re a super smart Nigerian, that’s an advantage in itself. So don’t worry about.</p>
<p>zhonggong:
You thought Williams was a ‘little farm school’? What exactly is a little farm school? A little school that has a farm? Or is it a little farm that has a school? A school that has a little farm maybe? Or maybe it’s a farm that has a little school? Little school with a little farm? Little farm with a little school?:S</p>
<p>Umm… i dont think ppl become superachiever due to parental pressure. If anything, excessive parental pressure can be detrimental. </p>
<p>By “little farm school”, I mean a little school (LAC, of course it’s little) with a rural surrounding, implying that it’s tranquil and isolated, relatively unknown to the outside; like an Amish village if that helps— in other words, not in NYC.</p>
<p>As for parental pressure, perhaps “pressure” its not the right word. It’s like, the parents are making them do fractions in 1st grade and they’re in Calculus II if not higher by their senior year; hence, to them “overachieving” is daily life. If the parents handles it the wrong way (and some do), like excessively scolding their kids for getting a B+, then yes, it can be detrimental; but most of the time the parents handle it effectively. How else do you explain the overrepresentation of Asians in American colleges? Compared to Hispanics and AA, Asians is much smaller percent of the population, and they too were a discriminated minority. Of course, it’s a complicated issue, but I think parents is a big, if not the biggest factor. </p>
<p>Not that this has anything to do with anything (and I can hardly say I’m cognizant enough to talk about your chances with credibility) but in my opinion Nigerians have the most beautiful accents when they speak English.</p>
<p>hello sefago,
i’m also nigerian, and applied to williams</p>
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<p>That’s a sweeping statement i don’t agree with. Nigeria is a very big country, and there thousands of students who scaled the 1400/1600 [old sat]. They are numerous. And a good handful who scaled the 1500/1600. In my school alone, most of the people who took the old SAT scored well above 1400, and a few have scored over 1500 in the past 4 yrs and gone on to MIT, Pton. now, think about other students in other schools across the country.</p>
<p>A friend of mine, from the same school in nigeria, scored 2290 [new sat] and 2380 [sat2], imo, one of the greatest minds in the country, yet he was rejected from MIT class of 2010.</p>
<p>The simple truth is that the Nigerian pool is very very competitive cos there are many bright students you don’t know about. That’s why good SAT scores don’t count much, cos you’ll always find better scores if you look. So the competition is very high, much higher than you can imagine. </p>
<p>Let’s just hope and wait for decisions to come out. This is no time for a chances thread, as nothing anyone here will say can change the decision of the adcom. I understand your anxiety, though.</p>
<p>Jrock I know several people in Nigeria score above 1500. One of my classmates scored 2360/2400 and another scored 2180/2400. The second time I took the SAT’s I got a 2230 (1540/1600)but did not send my scores to Williams. But tyhe percentage of Nigerians who scored above 1500 can’t be more than 5%. Jrock what are you doing in Harare. I don’t know where that is but I have to assume it is in Ethiopia. What otherschools are you applying to . What school did you go to.</p>
<p>wow!! that was awesome! why didn’t you send them? they’d surely have considered them, cos in early march, i sent them an update on my activities, which they included in my file. you may be right that the percentage of Nigerians [students who took SAT] and scored above 1500 can’t be more than 5%, but few would apply to Williams and they’ll most probably be among the 5% we’re talking about.</p>
<p>applied to Cornell, WashU [accepted], Wes, Williams, ConnColl, swat ed2[denied]. attended ISI [international school ibadan]. i’m in harare [zimbabwe] on a gap year.</p>