What are my son's chances?

<p>susan4: That is an interesting story, and I agree, it was entirely Yale’s loss.</p>

<p>oh… um whats the AMC?
is there any website i can learn more about these?</p>

<p>@waterbottle2009:</p>

<p>[MAA</a> American Mathematics Competitions - AMC](<a href=“http://www.unl.edu/amc/]MAA”>http://www.unl.edu/amc/)</p>

<p>@vicariousparent:</p>

<p>Yale is actually a more rational one. That type of rejections happened at Harvard almost every year. The most “amazing” rejection by Harvard I know was a female student four years ago. She was accepted by every school except Harvard and she should be graduating this year from a top school (Pton), so I am not sympathizing for her Harvard rejection. But it is a case people should realize, so when it happens to you/ your kids, don’t be surprised. And don’t assume that with certain STATs, you/ your kids will get into every HYPSM, even they are among the top 200-300 academic students in the country.</p>

<p>This girl applied in the year when Harvard and Pton had their last year of EA/ED. She was not a USAMO winner, but she qualified 4 times and that was before USAMO expansions (250 qualifiers per year at her time). In her particular year among the entire college applicant pool in US, there were two female students qualified for that many times. If we divide by gender, it would be scarcer to find a 4-time female USAMO qualifier than to find a male USAMO winner in the applicant pool. I am not trying to play gender card here, but many top colleges do strive to admit close to 50/50 gender ratio and many of us do assume that if you are a female and ever qualified for USAMO with an SAT over 2300, it is almost a lock for any school, which in reality is not quite so. This particular young lady had 2400 SAT I in one sitting, 4-800 SAT II (all in one sitting, including 800 in English Lit), perfect GPA, #1 ranking in her class, about 20 some APs and all scored 5, a gold key winner in writing and a highly accomplished violinist. She was deferred and eventually rejected by Harvard. She is an Asian. If I can find a reason for her rejection, it would be that she was too perfect. Her case was not an isolated case.</p>

<p>I don’t want to get into any argument with anyone. Those students may not get into a particular school, which is really that particular school’s loss, but they usually get accepted by multiple top schools.</p>

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<p>Correct me if I’m wrong, but I was under the impression that one can only take a maximum of 3 SAT Subject Tests in one sitting.</p>

<p>I mean only took SAT II once in the subjucts of her choice. I think she did SAT I twice, one was when she was in 7th or 8th grade with CTY.</p>

<p>While he probably will get in, there are some major flaws in his resume. He seems to only take rigorous courses in math and sciences, and his awards aren’t astounding. If you’re not the cream of the crop, the admissions counselors will be looking for well-rounded academics.
Additionally, I hope your son can convery genuine feelings for what he does, because from your profile he seems to do just what his mother pushes him into.
That being said, he’s definitely a “likely” candidate, but hopefully he’s looking into colleges outside of the top five.</p>

<p>another question: is he declaring a major?</p>

<p>susan4: thank you for your kind advice. we didn’t realized that being a USAMO qualifier was that much worthy. My son missed the qualifier cutoff by 0.5 index in 2007. In 2008, he passed it by more than 30 points.</p>

<p>thekingofcrunk: I know that math & science are his strength as like many other asian boys. However, it was not my intension at all. Since we came to US in 2001 we moved state to state every year for my job. His 5th grade homeroom teacher found that he has talent in math and helped him study and pass 5-8th grade math in one year. Then when he went a middle school in other state the following year he studies high school math courses up to calculus ab there. So during his high school years he took calculus bc, linear algebra, honor math seminar: number theory, multivariable calculus and real analysis so far and most of them he took at nearby state college and ended up as class top. The undergraduate program director of math department arranged an independent study for my son and it is how he is doing an independent study with a math professor there. However he is not a nerd. He also enjoys beat-boxing and break-dancing. He is Youtube-registered artist^^ If the admission officers prefer well-rounded kids, I don’t think that my son has a good chance to get in…since he does what he likes to do…</p>

<p>pigs<em>at</em>sea: he chose math/economics. Does it affect his chance of getting in?</p>

<p>i wish him the best</p>

<p>Thanks pigs<em>at</em>sea. Good luck for you too!</p>

<p>He has a very high chance of getting in. I want to hear from you come decision day.
But I have seen people not get into the College. And they were very impressive.</p>

<p>I think your son has an excellent chance of getting in. There are always a few rejection anomalies – no one has a 100% change of being accepted to any school. But his resume is strong, as is his story.</p>

<p>bump for last minute responses please! =]</p>

<p>He’ll be fine. Good luck! (for him…I suppose you can take the luck too though) lol! =D</p>

<p>He sounds as strong as anyone. And his story is really compelling. I hope he gets it :slight_smile:
Definitely update once you know.</p>

<p>3x USAMO, 1x MOSP-er here.</p>

<p>The breadth of awards definitely helps. Qualifying for olympiads across math and science is probably better than just math or science. I’ll trade you MOSP for your I-SWEEEP. =)</p>

<p>I’m curious. Did he get in?</p>

<p>No chance at all.</p>

<p>Kidding.</p>

<p>HYPSM admission is tricky, and putting a number on it is rather insane, but I’d estimate chances at about 75%.</p>

<p>I’m curious too… did he get into Yale SCEA, sweetmom?</p>

<p>Ergh I want to know as well now. Haha</p>