<p>I didn’t know that I was not allowed to use my mom’s account so that post was closed… I am starting this post under my CC account.</p>
<p>I am interested in attending Adelphi in Garden City. I do want to try and live in Manhattan if it is all possible and am willing and eager to have room mates. I know I will be commuting at least 3-4 times a week to Garden City but that leaves 3 days that I will be in Manhattan without the need to commute. And in my second year of the program, I definitely want to be placed in Manhattan to do my clinical work as I hope to make strong connections in Manhattan and live and work there upon graduation.</p>
<p>I am not at all familiar with Manhattan and safe areas which surround Penn Station (if there are any). I am willing to give up space and frills in order to live in Manhattan.</p>
<p>Is the LIRR from Garden City a safe ride back into Manhattan if I were to travel at 8-9PM after I leave my evening classes? How “safe” is it for a woman to arrive at Penn Station at around 9 or 10PM at night?</p>
<p>I appreciate all of your help! I understand that it may sound as though it “makes sense” to live in Garden City, but when I think of living in Garden City vs the opportunity to live in Manhattan, I am willing to give up space and convenience to make this happen. The only thing I do not want to give up is safety.
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<p>I do not understand…I have logged on with my own CC account (not questbest) and it still came up under questbest. Administrator please help and advise!</p>
<p>Are you the daughter planning to study speech pathology? If so, think VERY seriously about your time commitment. When I did my masters in the field, I very often had to be in the clinic five or six days a week. I had classes that began at 8 a.m. And others that ended at 10 p.m in addition, it was expected that I would do certain projects with my cohort students. Good thing we all lived within close proximity to the school. Very often, the on,y convenient time for ALL to meet was in the evening.</p>
<p>I know you want to live in NYC, and enjoy the life there. But be realistic about this. Manhattan is quite costly. Your commuting costs will need to be added to that. The LIRR is not free. You won’t be able to go home for lunch or between classes or clinical obligations.</p>
<p>You will be able to make contacts in NYC for clinical purposes. Your professors at Adelphi will help you with that process, simply residing in manhattan isn’t going to make that happen.</p>
<p>I answered this question in another thread…but I am going to tell you bluntly. Not a good idea to think you can live in Manhattan and commute to Garden City. First off it is not an easy commute. Besides getting to Penn Station you will find yourself either walking a long way or taking a subway to your apartment. I did the commute 10 years in the opposite direction. Then you have to take a bus to the campus. Realistically for an 8:00 class you would have to be at Penn Station by 6. You are going the opposite direction of the rush hour so the trains aren’t so frequent. You’ll probably have to “change at Jamaica” (That’s an inside Long Island joke that everyone from LI will understand) I would plan a 2 hour trip each way. 4 hours of your day total. That is leaving time for connections, walking, subway rides, busses and trains. Very, very expensive. Rents are insane in NY , even for shares. When I was young and worked in NYC the monthly pass for the train was a budget buster. Find an apartment near the campus. You will still need a car on LI. </p>
<p>…I just read your other post ( the one that was closed) You are a 22 year old young woman who is not familiar with NYC. As a mother of two young women I would never recommend or allow or be part of that scheme. Heck with being at Penn Station at 10…standing on the platform at Garden City in the middle of winter in the dark, alone, is neither safe nor wise. (You are probably safer at Penn Station…more people) Going home at night at that time because you will stop at every station along the way. No express trains going into NY… so I would add even more time to my original guestimate of 2 hours.</p>
<p>I agree. You would spend a good deal of time on the LIRR as well as waiting for the LIRR and then having to get to your apartment when you got to NYC. After rush hour trains only run once an hour so if you miss one, you are out of luck. My d was an adjunct at a college in NJ and lives in Brooklyn so this did happen to her when she missed her train by a few minutes at around 9 PM or so and had to wait on a train platform for an hour, not even a building to wait inside, no open coffee shop to wait in. She still had to get to Penn and take subway ride home.
Personally if you are going to attending grad school at Adelphi, I would recommend getting a car and getting an apartment somewhere that is a easy commute to Adelphi as well as to any clinical placements you will need to get to. You might look at Long Beach. You might look at Great Neck which has a great train line into the city for weekend going out, or even in Forest Hills or Kew Gardens, lots of apartments although hard to find street parking and easy subway or LIRR into the city for going out.</p>
<p>Why don’t you plan to live on Long Island near Adelphi for year #1 and then relocate to NYC or Brooklyn closer into the city for year #2, if that is where you plan to do your clinical work? </p>
<p>As to whether the Penn Station area is “safe” --that partly depends on you. You don’t sound like a person with a lot of “street smarts” and statistically, the crime rate around Penn Station is pretty high: </p>
<p>I asked on the other thread: whose footing the bill for this? The commute you propose is going to run up your costs considerably – it’s not just rent, it’s the cost of travel on LIRR (currently $11 each way peak hours, $8 off peak – or you can get a monthly pass for $242. It’s a 50 minute train ride and you do have to transfer at Jamaica station.</p>
<p>If you are sharing a computer with your mom, did you check to see if she was signed out before you attempted to sign in?
Sign her out, dump the cookies and restart to see if that helps.</p>
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<li><p>Everyone is right. It’s insane to live in Manhattan and commute to a rigorous program in Garden City. Life is long. You can delay living exactly where you want for a year.</p></li>
<li><p>Maybe you haven’t noticed, but people your age and income level tend not to live in Manhattan anymore, and certainly not anywhere near midtown Manhattan. My daughter works in Manhattan, but lives in Brooklyn, and so does almost everyone she knows. Most of them go into Manhattan only once in awhile; their social and cultural lives (which are very active) are mainly in Brooklyn and Queens, not Manhattan. Once upon a time the “outer boroughs” were suburban cultural wastelands for “bridge and tunnel people,” but that hasn’t been true for a long time. If you look, you will find lots of hip, vibrant communities for 20-somethings a lot closer to Adelphi than Penn Station.</p></li>
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<p>I think the replies are kind of over the top. Is it unusual to commute out of Manhattan? Sure. But, if you can afford it, there is nothing wrong with living in Manhattan for a 20-something. As I mentioned in response to another post, you WILL have to give up something (space, commute time, or money). But as I also mentioned, you CAN find studios for under $1500 a month on the Upper West and Upper East side. I would recommend not going above 98 street on the West side and above 90 on the East side unless you see the neighborhood first and are OK with it. The areas above there just vary a lot, and it also depends on your comfort level. Will it most likely be an old building with a small room? Sure. And if, as OP said, she is open to roommates, it will be even easier to find something doable. OP, do keep in mind, that if you live on the Upper West or Upper East side and not right next to the train, your commute will be about 2 hours one way. People can and do commute that much - just make sure it’s what you want and you are OK with it. But it’s not really anyone’s call but yours - just because it’s not most people’s choice doesn’t mean it can’t be a valid one for you.</p>
<p>“You are a 22 year old young woman who is not familiar with NYC. As a mother of two young women I would never recommend or allow or be part of that scheme.”</p>
<p>I don’t know how your daughters are OK with you ‘allowing’ them to do anything at 22, but I moved to NYC at 22, after having visited twice before - I have been living here for a number of years now, and it’s been great! Most people who start living in a new large city are, by definition, unfamiliar with it. And I have never been a fan of letting the fact that I am a single woman limit my life, like not living in NYC or traveling solo. You have to be smart and do your research, but being a single woman doesn’t mean staying away from big cities.</p>
<p>OP, be realistic about the costs and the fact that you will probably not be living right next to LIRR, but if you can reasonably afford it and are OK with the longish commute, go for it! Also, try to do your research on places other than CC as well, because most people here do NOT live in the city, and some seem to have an irrational fear of it (as far as big cities go, it’s very safe). Maybe try somthing like City-Data forums in addition to this one. Or better yet, see if you can find a friend of a friend who lives here and can tell you more/show you around.</p>
<p>I do NOT have an irrational fear of living in NYC. I DO have a very realistic view on what adding a LONG commute to this grad school program will mean.</p>
<p>As noted upstream, right now, this student is going to grad school at Adelphi, presumably. Grad school programs in her field use a lot of time. In addition to classes, there will be required clinical hours IN the Adelphi clinic. These can be six days a week, and also into the evenings. There will be night classes, required cohort things with other students, and early morning classes. </p>
<p>The OP (and her mother) haven’t even stated what “affordable” means. But a rent of $1500 a month, plus utilities, internet, and $250 a month for a LIRR pass, plus her subway costs to GET to Penn Station sound pretty pricey to me, for a grad student with no income.</p>
<p>I agree that there will be plenty of time to live in NYC when she gets her degree…and gets a job.</p>
<p>As an FYI, if this is the daughter entering the speech pathology program at Adelphi, he clinic experiences will need to be under the direction of Adelphi clinical supervisors. Period. It is possible that Adelphi has some regional clinic programs that they and their staff go to in the city. She would need to check with Adelphi on that. It’s not like a grad student can walk into a clinic or hospital or school in NYC to “establish a relationship”. </p>
<p>My irrational fear commet only referred to the part about about a sigle woman moving to NYC.</p>
<p>OP stated somewhere in another thread that she will only need to be on campus three days out of the week.</p>
<p>As far as cost, $1500 is just my estimate. Personally, I don’t pay that much for my studio, although I realize the market is worse now than when I got my place, which is why I put $1500. I also remember OP mentioning on another thread that she would be open to and even happy having roomates, which will cut costs a lot.</p>
<p>Yes, transportation will be expensive, but a lot of people told her (again in another thread) that she will need a car if she lives on Long Island, closer to campus. I have never owned a car, since I live in NYC. But I am willing to bet that a car note plus insurance plus other car costs are going to be a lot more a month than a flat $250 LIRR cost plus $100 for the subway. Correct me if I am wrong.</p>