What are the Perks of Stanford?

<p>So… I got accepted into Stanford…and…</p>

<p>Now I need to decide between Stanford, Yale, or Princeton…</p>

<p>As of now, Stanford is waaaay low on this list because I want to go to Medical School and I’ve heard Stanford is much harder. That is, there is less grade inflation … and grade inflation = good for a Pre-Med student :slight_smile: .</p>

<p>So, with that in mind… can anyone provide any insight that may aid in my decision? Is there anything about the Pre-Med path, or Pre-Med students at Stanford I should know about?</p>

<p>Really, any information or insight at all would be very much appreciated… because as of now, Stanford is the big underdog… but the weather is so much better there :D</p>

<p>Hey! I don’t know anything about Stanford’s pre-med program to tell you truth, but I do know pre-med is a crazy cut-throat major @ any school. So if you want less stress, go to Stanford because it has a laid back California attitude/atmosphere in ADDITION to an ivy-league level education. So the overall campus atmosphere might keep you sane while you take an insane major. :slight_smile: That’s definitely a perk!</p>

<p>In a bunch of college rankings, Stanford always ranks in the top 5 schools in terms of happiest students. </p>

<p>Stanford’s campus is so much better than the other two. Princeton is nice in the summer/spring I guess, but seriously who wants to deal with any of those east coast witners? blech. Another perk of Stanford is its close proximity to a big city: San Francisco. (closer than Yale or Princeton is to NYC) </p>

<p>Honestly though I’m seriously biased, I live in Cali and have found absolutely no reason that would make me want to leave.</p>

<p>haha, I am the opposite. I too live in California. Actually, I live in the Bay Area, about 80 mins South of Stanford. However, thats a big reason why i DONT want to go. I wanna get away :)</p>

<p>You really think Stanford is more laid back? Ive always heard its more competitive than the grade-inflated Yale …and probably Princeton too.</p>

<p>…Not to sound lazy, but I need the GPA cushion as insurance for Med School :)</p>

<p>Stanford doesnt have a specific pre-med major.</p>

<p>tupacalipse - congrats on … well, wow ;).</p>

<p>I’m going for med eventually too, (deciding between yale, stanford, and northwestern hpme) so I’m just going to listen in here. </p>

<p>Does anyone know about med-related research/internships at yale stanf or pton (haven’t heard yet :S)</p>

<p>I know none of those schools have pre-med “majors”… so I’ll call them Pre-Med “paths” :)</p>

<p>Still looking for any other insight, if anyone can help.</p>

<p>lol, actually i have heard that stanford has a lot of grade inflation, comparable to your other schools, so i don’t think that should be the deciding factor. btw, congrats on those acceptances</p>

<p>Stanford has more grade inflation than any school with the exeption of Harvard, which has TOO much grade inflation. Princeton has a quota system for A’s and Yale sucks at science.</p>

<p>Really? I sort of had the impression that Yale’s science department was weaker…but its still an Ivy so…it cant be too bad heh. </p>

<p>Stanford has grade inflation? Do you know anything about the rigor differences between Yale/Princeton/Stanford?</p>

<p>I always heard Stanford was extremely rigorous in comparison to the Ivys… maybe that is why I thot they had less grade-inflation as well…I heard stanford doesnt baby as much.</p>

<p>does this differ from what you know?</p>

<p>the presence of high grade inflation is a very BAD reason to choose a school…in my opinion</p>

<p>Yale sucks at science? Whoa…I heard it was better than pton. </p>

<p>Man, gotta do my research. Anyone got some good links?</p>

<p>i agree with frankenchris…i think it’s a bad idea to take grade inflation into consideration when you make such a decision. maybe visting the admit website will help you…you can talk to the current students and already admitted students in the chatroom. also, there’s the Stanofrd09 yahoo group, which is also very informative. good luck with everything. Hope you choose Cardinal.</p>

<p>oh yea and if gradeinflation is really THAT important to you…this might help: </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.gradeinflation.com/[/url]”>http://www.gradeinflation.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>That website was very helpful.</p>

<p>But perhaps I should re-phrase my question to be more acceptable…</p>

<p>It’s not so much grade-inflation I am considering… but more, how rigorous and competitive the Pre-Med path is at these schools. Grade-inflation was just one indirect way to analylize this. Obviously, the rigor will be high at all of them, however, I want to ensure the I am not overwhelmed… chances are I can handle it no matter, but I cant take chances :)</p>

<p>So… does anyone have any insight on the level of competition and rigor of Pre-Med/Science at these schools? I’d be majoring in Chemistry.</p>

<p>I found the article, “Where All Grades Are Above Average” (linked to the gradeinflation website) very interesting. It was written in 2003 for the Washington Post by a Duke Professor who was a visiting prof at Stanford at the time and became the impetus for the website. It is worth reading.</p>

<p>Here is what I know second hand about grading at Stanford. My D attended a private high school with major grade DE-flation. A 4.0 did not exist in her graduating class even though 30% were National Merit awardees and 25% of her class were accepted into Ivy League colleges.
She has found the grading scale to be pretty comparable at Stanford. In fact, it may be slightly easier. At her high school a C was really considered average, satisfactory. Whereas, her understanding at Stanford has been that average (under the mode of the bell shaped curve) is a B and above 1 standard deviation from the mode is an A. Therefore, I assume that more than 1 standard deviation below the mode is a C (but according to the article, Cs may be even more rare than that. </p>

<p>This scale skewed to the higher end seems appropriate given the high caliber of students at Stanford. However, when you figure that the average student at S was used to a 4.0 in high school, suddenly getting Bs could be shocking. As I mentioned before, this was not a surprise for my D since her HS gave very few As. She has found that her Stanford gpa is very consistent with her HS gpa.</p>

<p>So, Tupacalipse, if you are coming from a very rigorous HS with low grade inflation, my guess is that you can expect to maintain about the same gpa at S. Otherwise, many of my D’s peers have found that they are getting Bs in subjects that they used to get As in. My guess is that this will be true in any of the top colleges you are looking at. </p>

<p>Although I have heard that Yale is not strong in the physical sciences/engineering, it sounds like its bio dept is better and in fact, I believe they recently built or is currently building a new science facility that should be a big boost to their program. </p>

<p>On the other hand, they have put a lot of money towards making undergraduate research very accessible to Stanford students. Also, the reputation that S students have a more laid back attitude on the surface but work like crazy behind the scenes seems to be true from what my D has observed. According to her, they are not intense, extreme, singularly focused, obsessive compulsives. They are hard-working, ambitious, intellectually curious and passionate about academics as well as their extra-curricular interests. She loves the stimulating environment without the competitiveness and cut-throat attitude. However, although she is a science major and has pre-med students in her classes, she is NOT pre-med. I know nothing about the students at Yale or Princeton.</p>

<p>Last piece of advice, choose an environment that you would want to live in for the next four years; a place that you could picture yourself thriving in, because these are potentially the best four years of your life – it is a time of minimum responsibilities and maximum freedom!! </p>

<p>Congratulations on your tough decision and best wishes for your future success!</p>

<p>My son has certainly NOT noticed grade inflation at Stanford, particularly in the sciences and engineering classes. He has found them very demanding and received mostly B’s, despite working very hard. It is true that C’s are not that common. However, neither are A’s–except perhaps in the humanities, where they do seem to be easier to attain.</p>

<p>However, the atmosphere at Stanford is nice. It is more laid back than Eastern schools, from what I have heard. And the sunshine (well, except for this year) is quite nice!</p>

<p>After hearing so much about grade-inflation at Stanford, I expected to get a lot of A-s before starting my MS at Stanford. But then it didn’t turn out that way. LOL! I was a very average person among my peers and Stanford’s (engineering) average is not in the A-range! So I got mix of A-s and B-s. Expect “easy A” only if you are smarter than Stanford’s average. :)</p>

<p>“As of now, Stanford is waaaay low on this list because I want to go to Medical School and I’ve heard Stanford is much harder. That is, there is less grade inflation … and grade inflation = good for a Pre-Med student.”</p>

<p>Please, don’t strive to become a doctor. Your kind of attitude makes me sick. Sorry, it just does.</p>

<p>_jc, I understand your reaction, but as a prospective medic, let me defend tupa’s position.</p>

<p>First off, in post # 14 , Tupa already rephrased her question to “how rigorous and competitive the Pre-Med path is at these schools”. Tupa made it into S, Y, P; I think you can trust that she is not and has never been looking for an easy ride with lots of parties. However, it is true that at some schools more than others, pre-Meds find the competition so insane and grades so de-flated, that it is simply impossible to get the 4.0 GPA that grad med schools require. </p>

<p>What I mean to say is that Tupa’s addressing a very real concern. pre-Meds of all calibers are glad to make it into med school at all. If she’s like me, then she would have wanted to become a doc for a huge part of her life and doesn’t want those dreams dashed because she chose, say, Stanford, when she could have done better at, say, Princeton. </p>

<p>Thus her attitude of wanting good grades is no reflection of her potential to become a fine doctor - good grades aren’t going to come easy at any of the school’s she’s looking at, as she said - but rather a practical consideration that all pre-Meds should think about.</p>

<p>Mea, lol - thank you for understanding my reaction and attempting to defend your perspective. Still lol. GL - and have fun at Stanford :)</p>