<p>wowwwwwwwwwwww pathetic. ok you win, nancy. happy?</p>
<p>Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwzers! Good job in refuting my post. But we can agree on one thing. Pathetic. You’re right, it is pathetic that someone would pay four times as much money to go to a USC. </p>
<p>P.S.<br>
You can call me Nancy, but only if I can call you Betty Sue.</p>
<p>Gentleman,</p>
<p>Don’t have things to add, just point out that you have some facts to check.</p>
<p>One is USC won’t cost you 4 times as UCs, all included, may be just 2~3 without considering FA and scholarship, etc.</p>
<p>Another is the student number of UCLA and USC, 25,000 vs 17,000 for undergraduate.</p>
<p>That seemed like adding, QW553, and I think it was warrented.</p>
<p>actually-
when considering the cost,
you have to realize that the average student graduates from UCLA in five years, while the average USC student graduates in four.
Also, USC is very generous with financial aid.
Furthermore, if you look at the rankings- its true that UCLA is still ahead of USC-but not by far! In addition, within the last ten years, UCLA’s rankings have gone done while USC’s have risen dramatically.
just some thoughts : )</p>
<p>Ah, but rankings? Fluctuations in rankings can mean something or nothing. Generally, in US News, they mean nothing (which I assume is what you’re talking about). Also, saying the average student graduates in five years isn’t fair. Over 50% (is it 63%?) graduate in or under four years. I think it depends on what data you look at. <a href=“http://www.aim.ucla.edu/home/update05-1gradrates.pdf[/url]”>http://www.aim.ucla.edu/home/update05-1gradrates.pdf</a> And it’s possible to graduate in 3 (with a summer or two and some AP credits and depending on major, not that I think people should do this). UCLA has implemented many (and is implementing more) things to improve four year graduation rate.</p>
<p>that’s true… i’ve just heard horror stories, so I know that it does happen often… although that’s good that UCLA is working hard to improve that graduation rate. Snaps for them! (okay, so i’m a dork…)</p>
<p>they’re both great schools, but…i still like USC better : )</p>
<p>(plus… i just got accepted to USC with a scholarship, so I guess i’m a bit biased, haha!)</p>
<p>congrats sarah!</p>
<p>haha same to you! i was reading on another topic, and you got into UCLA engineering, right? GOOD JOB!!! : )</p>
<p>USC has not yet made decisions on Scholarships, they have only interviewed the candidates eligible for Trustee and Presidential. Approx 1/2 will be awarded scholarships, but yes USC is quite generous with finding aid for those that need it, and the average debt load is still just under $20K.</p>
<p>haha thats totally not something i would lie about!
i got in at the beginning of february, and received my letter about a week later. I was awarded Dean’s. (quarter scholarship)
i can scan the letter if you’re REALLY that doubtful : )</p>
<p>UCLA: Mandatory fees=$8,109.50</p>
<p>USC: Mandatory fees=$32,008 </p>
<p>8,109.50 times four =32,438</p>
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<p>Actually, by most measures, UCLA’s rankings have improved along with USC improving. It just seems that USC is improving at a faster rate. But UCLA has by no means dropped.</p>
<p>USC’s rankings stopped increasing last year. They’re stuck at 30th. :rolleyes:</p>
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<p>why do you hate rowland heights? =(</p>
<p>“UCLA: Mandatory fees=$8,109.50
USC: Mandatory fees=$32,008
8,109.50 times four =32,438”</p>
<p>Ah, but being a wealthy private school that is quite generous with need-based aid (unlike cash-strapped UCLA) along with merit aid, very few USC students pay the full $32k tuition. I only pay $11k (not including merit aid)… in other words, USC picks up $21k of the tab simply because they’ve determined through various financial formulas that I’m unable to pay it. In fact, had I decided to go to UCLA, I may have ended up paying more. And indeed I do know some students who made their USC-UCLA decision based on USC being cheaper for their specific circumstances.</p>
<p>So really, you can’t say USC costs 4x more than UCLA. They are apples and oranges as far as costs are concerned.</p>
<p>I would think a Berkeley student would have more sense than that.</p>
<p>OH, clever clever move their, you mega stud. It’s really not apples and oranges. Is it unfair to say that most students would end up paying far more for USC than UCLA? To say that many students don’t get USC good fin aid, or that for a small minority, it costs less to go to USC than UCLA, but generally? As long as the other cases are presented, there’s nothing wrong with stating the more important, more relevant issues. Sakky’s brother got paid to go to caltech- do you think that happens to most students?</p>
<p>Berkeley’s and UCLA’s endowments are right up their with USC. It’s nice though to see an SC’er finally admit they only chose USC because it cost less, and not because they had thoughts it was a better school.</p>
<p>Hey, I’m just stating the facts as they’ve been presented to me. If you can give me stats that disprove my own then I will concede the point, but just hearing a couple of people say its cheaper going to USC doesn’t make me dump the numbers that I have.</p>
<p>“Berkeley’s and UCLA’s endowments are right up their with USC. It’s nice though to see an SC’er finally admit they only chose USC because it cost less, and not because they had thoughts it was a better school.”</p>
<p>Wrong. As taken from <a href=“Search | Infoplease”>Search | Infoplease;
<p>USC: 2.4 Billion
Berk: 2 Billion
UCLA: 1.5 Billion</p>
<p>Though endowment is irrelevant. What we’re talking about is how generous USC is with need based aid and how people on this board are quick to discount the fact that only the most wealthy of students pay an entire $32k for USC – far from everyone does. Are Berk and UCLA cheaper? Sticker pricewise, yes. Are they cheaper across the board? By no means. Can we just automatically assume they’re cheaper and throw out the fact that USC is four times more expensive as if that applied to everyone and completely disregard the fact that it really varies on a case by case basis? Sure, if we’re so deadset in our views that we like to mislead people.</p>
<p>DRab, Sakky’s brother got paid to go to CalTech based on merit aid. We’re talking need based aid here which is the main reason why few end up actually paying $32k. Unlike the UC’s which only require the FAFSA, USC also requires the CSS-PROFILE which takes a much more in-depth look at a family’s financial standing to calculate just how much they can contribute and not be impacted financially. This in part contributes to USC doling out so much aid.</p>
<p>To those reading this thread and are considering USC, I’d encourage you to consider USC’s financial aid package with those of UCLA and Berkeley and see what the actual numbers are, instead of simply reading the full tuition numbers people throw about as if everyone paid that.</p>
<p>Look, I understand many of you have excessive pride in your alma maters and that’s fine. But people come on to this board looking for information and some of you are misleading them. Try learning mroe about the financial aid process instead of simply cracking a Princeton Review, pasting in numbers, and telling posters that’s actually what they’d be paying.</p>