<p>I have been wondering this for awhile…</p>
<p>UVA:
Total number of applications: 16,298 (2006)
6,019 admitted (37%)
Total undergrads: 14,676
67% In-state students
33% Out-of-state students
88% in top 10th of graduating class
97% in top quarter of graduating class
100% in top half of graduating class
85% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher
9% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74
3% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49
2% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24
1% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99
SAT Critical Reading: 600 - 710
SAT Math: 620 - 720
SAT Writing: 610 - 710
ACT Composite: 26 - 31</p>
<p>UNC-CH:
19,736 applied (Fall 2006)
6,734 admitted (34.1%)
85% In-state students
15% Out-of-state students
76% in top 10th of graduating class
96% in top quarter of graduating class
99% in top half of graduating class
93% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher
4% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74
1% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49
1% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24
1% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99
SAT Critical Reading: 590 - 690
SAT Math: 610 - 700
SAT Writing: 580 - 680
ACT Composite: 25 - 30</p>
<p>So, from these statistics I think you can conclude that it’s harder to get into UVA, but not that much harder.
UNC has a lower acceptance rate (34% to UVA’s 37%). But this does not mean it’s easier to get into UVA. Actually, you can identify 3 reasons as to why UVA is just as hard to get into (if not harder):
- UVA’s middle 50% test score ranges are higher
- Its GPA distribution for accepted applicants is higher
- The acceptance rate at UNC is lower not because UNC has harder admissions standards but because its applicant pool is larger. Both UNC and UVA make about 6000 offers, but UNC gets more applications, so this means it has to turn down more people, driving down its acceptance rate and making it look harder to get into UNC.</p>
<p>But the number of out of state students is also significantly lower for UNC…</p>
<p>Mallomar: Actually, the in-state percentage is technically 82%, with the OOS at 18%. Since the NC legislation that gives in-state tuition to all OOS on merit or athletic scholarships went into effect, the in-state is probably closer to 80% now.</p>
<p>Yeah, when I visited UNC they told me the 82/18 thing too, but I took these numbers off of Collegeboard.com so who knows. (The College board numbers seem to be updated because they posted SAT writing scores and those have only been in use since last year.)</p>
<p>yeah…but the instate ACCEPTANCE RATE is still only around 50%…</p>
<p>the OOS rate is no higher than 20%. i’d say its harder to get into carolina.</p>
<h2>“Both UNC and UVA make about 6000 offers, but UNC gets more applications, so this means it has to turn down more people, driving down its acceptance rate and making it look harder to get into UNC.”</h2>
<p>It doesn’t ‘look’ harder; it IS harder. The more applications of equal quality, the more difficult to get in. Now if you could somehow determine that one school has more applications but of lessor quality, you might be able to make the statement about appearances. But I don’t think this is determinable data. Quality is in the eye of the beholder and not limited to hard statistics.</p>
<p>Btw…we were told OOS acceptance rate at UNC fluctuates between 16-19%. Not sure of UVA’s OOS acceptance rate, but I believe UVA is permitted to enroll 30% OOS students, while UNC is only permitted to enroll 18%. I would be inclined to think that would drive UVA’s OOS acceptance rate up.</p>
<p>Previous posts have cited UVA’s slightly higher numbers for GPA, scores, etc. I would just like to say that the reason UNC’s numbers are lower is that it accepts so many in-state students whose numbers are not as high, and UVA is harder to get into in-state. However, the 18% of UNC students OOS have to have very high numbers to get in, and collegeboard.com does not offer stats that take in-state versus OOS into account. I would personally say UNC is much harder.</p>
<p>^ exactly. thanks tuck</p>
<p>We are splitting hairs. Both are good state schools that are hard to get into OOS. Great sports and party scene. Katie Couric or Andy Griffin is the only difference</p>
<p>^ahem…make that Katie Couric and David Brinkley or Charles Kuralt thank you very much.</p>
<p>stuart scott > all.</p>
<p>very true tina, very true.</p>
<p>I agree they are both pretty hard to get into and the difference is really marginal unless you are in-state for one of them</p>
<p>But I read somewhere you have to take 2 SATII’s to apply for UVA which you don’t have to do for UNC.</p>
<p>SAT IIs are not required for admission at UNC-CH, but the Math L2 is required for math placement. Most who apply to UNC-CH from out of state are also applying to other highly selectives who do require SAT IIs, so it’s really a mute point. UNC-CH ends up seeing SAT IIs for most oos candidates.</p>
<p>i dont see how required SAT IIs signify that UVA would be harder to get into…considering OOS applicants to UNC most likely would never get accepted without solid SAT IIs</p>