<p>i’d say 2200+ for a non-hooked applicant, if you want a fair shot at some ivies</p>
<p>If she’s only a first generation student with no other hooks, then… 2150-2200+ probably, assuming her SAT II’s are pretty high (730-750+ hopefully) and that her SAT score is not inflated by her Writing Score. This is only applicable to lower Ivies. HYP are going to require higher stats probably.</p>
<p>It will hurt that her best section is writing… Many schools don’t take it as seriously. It is so painful, because I, too, did well on my SAT writing (but, unfortunately, poorly on my ACT essay because I was not feeling well and, by the end of the test, I was DONE). Hopefully, they will see it as a good sign anyway. Good luck to her!</p>
<p>A 2200+ for a weakly or non-hooked applicant at HYPMS at least.</p>
<p>really? Then how do those people with like 1900s get in? Not every damn person with a score below 2200 which is like (more than 1000 peoples at each school) is an athlete or legacy.</p>
<p>I have to interject, one of my closest friends’ sons got into Brown last year and was waitlisted at Dartmouth only to be eventually offered admissioin and his score was in the high 1900’s!!! However, he was first generation out of his family to attend college, in Hernadezs’ book, the former admissions diretor at Dartmouth it does speak to this exact topic and does say that they do “lower the bar” for first generation as long as everything else is relatively in place.</p>
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<p>WHAT?? That’s not a “hook” or even close to one! There’s so many!
I thought First Generation meant your parents never went to college.</p>
<p>In this context, “first-generation” means “having parents who didn’t go to college” or possibly “having parents who didn’t attain a college degree.” </p>
<p>It’s DEFINITELY possible to get into one of the eight Ivy League colleges (although maybe not the one of the eight you desire most) or into one of the several Ivy-peer colleges with SAT composite scores below 2200. Most successful applicants score higher, but not all. Presumably the lowest-scoring successful applicants to Harvard have admission factors such as being first-generation college students (or, better still, low-income first-generation college students) or amazing accomplishments outside the testing room. Harvard admission officers say in public meetings that scores above 650 on each section of the new three-section SAT Reasoning Test are at least competitive, so a score as low as 1950 isn’t entirely out of the running. </p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/413821-sat-score-frequencies-freshman-class-sizes.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/413821-sat-score-frequencies-freshman-class-sizes.html</a></p>
<p>First generation has nothing to do about where you are from, it only has to do with neither of your parents having attended college/obtained a degree.</p>
<p>I think its fair to say, that you won’t know until you try, my friends son certainly didn’t expect to gain admittance but was urged to try though his advisor, he is there for two years now and is doing fantastic! All he needed was that “golden opportunity” and he got it…so keep plugging ahead and try your best.</p>
<p>JackieChan:</p>
<p>On page 3, under Family, it clearly asks for the college attended by Parents, and for any degrees earned by them.</p>
<p>But, it does not ONLY ask for the info on the US-educated.</p>
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<p>I think Dartmouth’s mean for matriculating students is slightly under 2200, so obviously, ~half the class has less. But, a good target for any college is to try to be above the mean, if possible.</p>
<p>Below 2200 is possible if you have ECs or something that can make it for it. </p>
<p>I don’t think being a first gen does much to help your chances.</p>
<p>The average SAT score for all of the Ivy League schools falls between 2100 and 2250 (c.2100 for Columbia and Cornell, c.2250 for Harvard and Princeton). Therefore, if you’re below average you need above average EC’s, essays, etc. However, since there’s no real way to gage the “average” EC or essay, being that they’re all subjective, like bluebayou said, it’s best to aim for above the average.</p>
<p>When you have a hook you are competing against all the other people with the same hook. In this very competitive market rest assured that there are plenty of Ist. gen, URM, athletes, etc. with 2200+ scores and great everything else. How many are applying to the school you want to go to? Who knows. Therefore, the only thing you can do is apply and hope for the best.</p>