<p>And which offer better scholarships? or Aid</p>
<p>There is no such thing as a “Public Ivy”. By “Regular Ivy” I assume you mean members of the Ivy League athletic conference. So not Stanford or MIT.</p>
<p>Ivy League schools do not offer scholarships, their aid is completely need based. If your family makes under $60K/yr and does not have much in the way of savings or home equity, you’ll likely pay $0/yr at most Ivy League schools.</p>
<p>To figure this out, you need to run Net Price Calculators at schools you are interested in. You’ll need to get financial information from your parents for this.</p>
<p>You’ll have to indicate which schools you mean when you refer to “Public Ivy” to get anyone to answer, since it’s not actually a thing that anyone agrees on. But you can get this information yourself using google.</p>
<p>Everything is different if you are International- that is a whole separate question.</p>
<p>No such animal. “Public Ivy” is at best a term of art, and at worse, a marketing schtick. It’s a misused word.</p>
<p>the ivy league is a sport league consisting of 8 of the top private schools in the country. There is no such thing as a public ivy.</p>
<p>If by Public Ivies you mean schools such as UCLA, UCBerkeley, NYBinghamton, Wisconsin-Madison, Maryland-College Park, Michigan, Illinois-Urbana, NC-Chapel Hill, Penn State, Texas-Austin, UVA and William & Mary, out of state acceptance rates range from 15-35%. North Carolina has a mandated cap on how many OOS students they can accept (17%?), not sure about other states. Some of them have campuses/resources to rival some Ivy League schools.</p>
<p>Some of the above mentioned offer both merit and need-based aid, but as ormdad said, you’ll have to do some research. Some public honors programs (Alabama, Ohio State, Arizona, S. Carolina, for example) offer merit aid based on stats. There’s a website for Public University Honors programs which is useful (google it) which recently published a book (e-book and hard copy) comparing the top 50 programs.</p>
<p>Ivy League: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Dartmouth, Penn, Brown, Columbia, Cornell. It’s a sports league of 8 universities that do not offer athletic or merit scholarships. With $2 billion-plus endowments ($250,000-$2,000,000+ per student including graduate students), they are very generous with financial aid; families with income up to $200,000 or $250,000, depending on family assets as well can get some financial aid, </p>
<p>Public Ivy is a very loose term for top flagship universities, such as UVa, UC-Berkeley, Wisconsin-Madision and Michigan-Ann Arbor. </p>
<p>Are these public Ivies actually have ivies growing on them? Just curious!</p>
<p>Most of the top state universities do not offer generous financial aid to students from outside of the state. So if you are a top student and do not have large enough need to qualify for financial aid at the Ivy League schools, you might be better off checking the financial aid threads that list schools with generous merit aid.</p>
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<p>No, a few had started to grow ivy on several buildings but Harvard filed a cease and desist order on behalf of the private Ivy League. </p>
<p>For heaven’s sake. The term Public Ivy has a well-understood definition that anyone could check in less time than it takes to type out a snarky reply: <a href=“Public Ivy - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Ivy</a> . I am frankly embarrassed that a member of fewer than 24 hours should be subjected to this petty peevery.</p>
<p>Is that right? And you cite Wikipedia as a definitive reference? Frankly I am embarrassed that some young person seeking advice would receive highly subjective opinion passed along as facts.</p>
<p>Eh, the Ivy League is in large part a marketing schtick as well. Other than the sports league (for some sports) and being private, selective, and located roughly in the same geographic region, there’s not a lot of reason to lump a bunch of these widely disparate institutions together. </p>
<p>Not as “widely disparate” as you might believe. With the exception of Dartmouth, Princeton and Cornell all are in the heart of dense metropolitan areas, for example. All have rather astounding endowments, principally based on being among the oldest and thus, more established institutions in the U.S. All began as liberal arts colleges.</p>
<p>Direct quote from a DOA at an Ivy League University speaking at a high school admissions event I attended:</p>
<p>“There is no such thing as an Ivy League education.”</p>
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<li><p>So with the exception of almost half the conference, they’re all in dense metropolitan areas.</p></li>
<li><p>The other Ivy-equivalent elite privates also have “astounding” endowments. Brown’s, Cornell’s, and Dartmouth’s are actually fairly small for an elite private. Duke, Emory, WashU, Northwestern, Chicago, Stanford, MIT, and Notre Dame (as well as Texas, A&M, UMich, and UVa) all have bigger ones.</p></li>
<li><p>Cornell was never a LAC. In fact, it started as a land-grant university. Not sure about UPenn, but they had a practical pre-professional bent from the day Ben Franklin started it. OK, I look, and UPenn was a university with both undergrade and graduate education already in the colonial period.</p></li>
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<p>Michigan State came to my school for a college fair and told me that they were a public IVY school. I hadn’t heard of the term either so I was a little confused. Thank You everyone :)</p>
<p>@ The problem is that there is no agreed upon list of “public ivies”, so while we all understand the concept (elite public schools). there is no way to compare them as a group to the Ivy League schools, because what are we comparing? Is it the 8 schools on Moll’s original list, the 30 Greene lists or some other list of really good public schools?</p>
<p>There are Catholic Ivies, Canadian Ivies, HBCU Ivies etc. It is just a way of referring to the top schools in each category. </p>
<p>FWIW, Harvard, Yale, and Princeton are known for excellent need-based aid.</p>
<p>Of course they are going to say that, they want your money.</p>