<p>If he works hard. If he doesn’t work hard then I guess he’ll make lots of friends at Burger King or something.</p>
<p>What do you mean by “average IQ”? What was his gpa and his test scores? If things were dismal, I would encourage community college. Sometimes, it’s not so much about IQ, it’s more about maturity, and those two years at a cc can help a person decide that they want to put the effort into their education.</p>
<p>If he works hard in school, is black, and is a top football recruit, then Harvard.</p>
<p>I don’t know if people with like 100 IQ can get 4.5+ GPA though.</p>
<p>IQ isn’t what matters: gpa is what matters. Assuming that the person with an average IQ works hard, gets a B average, and takes college prep courses, there probably are hundreds of second/third tier 4-year colleges as well as community colleges that student could gain entrance to.</p>
<p>^I know, but IQ and GPA is somewhat correlated. But hard work outweights everything else.</p>
<p>lol@ ChoklitRain.</p>
<p>i dont think colleges will take IQ into account unless you seem really, really, really, REALLY dumb.</p>
<p>Not talking about colleges taking IQ into account. I’m just saying if people with like 100 IQ worked really hard can they get into top colleges or whatnot.</p>
<p>Pretty much all the APs/Honors courses in public schools are dumbed down to the point it’s effort, and not intelligence…that’s where the SAT comes in. If you’re average, you’ll get around a 1500. If you prep at all–probably by taking a class at your school–a 1650 should not be difficult, and will give you a reasonable chance at most state schools.</p>
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<p>“Average” people will never get into top colleges…by definition.</p>
<p>I mean, a local sal here had to drop calculus at the community college because she was failing.</p>
<p>“I’m just saying if people with like 100 IQ worked really hard can they get into top colleges or whatnot.”</p>
<p>Not going to happen. They would be competing against hard working people who also are much smarter. Average people can, however, get into many colleges.</p>
<p>^That sucks. Does that mean if you go to Ivy League your IQ is more important than work ethic because everyone else would be working his ass off just like you?</p>
<p>In general, people who end up at Ivies are very smart and have strong work ethics. Even the bottom of the class at Ivies does well if one is measuring success by whether people get good jobs, and get into graduate and professional schools. Even if one graduates at the bottom of one’s class at Harvard, for instance, one still would be a Harvard grad and would get a great deal of respect from many people. The graduation rates at Ivies tend to be the highest in the country, with as many as 97% of entering freshmen graduating from the college that they entered. Those who don’t tend to have transferred to similarly or higher ranked colleges.</p>
<p>So if you find out your IQ is 100 from an official test it’s best to forget about aiming for a top 20 college? Because no matter how hard you work you won’t make it?</p>
<p>No, because IQ tests are not actually that accurate. Don’t ever make any decisions based on IQ test results.</p>
<p>You have nothing to lose by striving for the top. Remember, too, that all IQ tests only estimate one’s intelligence. Your actual intelligence may be far higher than what it measured. There also could have been errors in scoring or administration that caused the estimate to be off.</p>
<p>My younger son was first IQ tested when he was a toddler (This was done because he had been a preemie). Due to his lack of cooperation, his score made him appear to be mentally ■■■■■■■■. In elementary school, he was IQ tested again, and his score made him appear to be of average overall intelligence, but far below average in social intelligence. This ended up being due to testing error and the fact that son was shy, so was scared to answer.</p>
<p>IQ testing at a later age indicated he is gifted across the board. In high school, S’s SAT scores were 98-99th percentile, and he had many friends, and also won a countywide award due to a service project that he organized.</p>
<p>Son is a dean’s list student at a second tier college now, and is well lacked and active in several ECs.</p>
<p>Don’t bother to retake the IQ tests. Just take the time and effort to do the best that you can in the endeavors that you decide to pursue. IQ is just a number, it’s not a firm prediction of your destiny.</p>
<p>K cool. So let’s say you DO get into a top 20 college.</p>
<p>You mentioned that top colleges have a bunch of very smart + very hard workers.</p>
<p>Doesn’t very smart + works very hard beat the crap out of average + works very hard?</p>
<p>I’ve heard that graduating in top 10% from a state college is better than ending up at bottom 25% at a top college…</p>
<p>So… It’s not suggested that you go to a top 20 if you have average intelligence? Because everyone else would just beat you up in grades (they need to keep like a C-B average in every class and if you’re below-average in a class full of very smart people your grade would be like C, D, or F and having a bunch of those = not good)</p>
<p>"So… It’s not suggested that you go to a top 20 if you have average intelligence? "</p>
<p>If you really have average intelligence, you’re not going to gain admission to a top college because no matter how hard they work, people of average intelligence aren’t going to be able to achieve the scores and grades in difficult subjects that top colleges require. Keep in mind, too, that the very top colleges also require strong ECs in addition to strong stats. </p>
<p>Regardless of what an IQ test estimated one’s IQ to be, if one got into a top college, that’s an indication that you really have intelligence that is at minimum above average.</p>
<p>OP, why are you so concerned with this? Most people – even most extremely bright people – don’t go to top 10 colleges, yet live happy successful lives.</p>
<p>^Too many people in my IB class talk about IQ and I wanted to know.</p>
<p>I’d tell them I got 100 IQ because I got 100 IQ on a couple of tests and they’re like “yeah, right, with your current senior grades you’re at least 130” but my dad keeps saying “if you have average intelligence and works hard you’ll still get into Ivy League” so I got confused.</p>
<p>Seriously, I DO have 100 IQ but my dad keeps calling me a lazy ■■■■■■■ who fails at everything even though I got 4.7 GPA first semester of senior year 'cause he thinks I would’ve got 5.0 if I worked harder but I’m like “HELL NO! I tried my best!” If I don’t get what he thinks I should get he’ll use the word LAZY over and over like 500 times and cuss at me. I’m 0.3 points away from 5.0 and he says I failed. </p>
<p>I pulled out my IQ on him but he says IQ is bullcrap and 100 IQ is enough.</p>
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<p>Oh, yeah, thank you very much for your answers though. It was very very helpful.</p>
<p>"I’d tell them I got 100 IQ because I got 100 IQ on a couple of tests "</p>
<p>Why are you sharing your IQ with people? Other than people who join organizations like Mensa, I’ve never run into people who talked about their IQ.</p>
<p>Also, what kind of IQ test are you referring to? If it was an on-line test, it was worthless. If it was a reputable IQ test administered by a trained professional, as I mentioned earlier, the tests provide only an estimated IQ, and there are many reasons why the estimate can be much lower than is your real IQ. If you’re carrying such a high gpa, it’s highly doubtful that you have only average intelligence. </p>
<p>A 4.7 gpa is a gpa that most people, including smart people, would rejoice to have. Both of my sons have gifted estimated IQs, and both had unweighted gpas of under 3.0 because they truly were lazy (My sons would agree with me). I’d have been jumping up and down with joy if my sons had achieved anywhere near what you achieved.</p>
<p>Your gpa would gain your admission to most schools in the country. Regardless of where you end up going, what will determine your success in your career will be your work ethic and to some extent your social skills far more than will your IQ.</p>
<p>“but my dad keeps saying “if you have average intelligence and works hard you’ll still get into Ivy League” so I got confused.”</p>
<p>Asian dad perhaps? Many Asians believe that with hard work, one can achieve anything. However, that’s not true when it comes to schools like Ivies, entrance to which is based on more than scoring high on tests. ECs, personality, and factors beyond one’s control (such as being from an underrepresented region, country or racial or ethnic group) can contribute to one’s admission. That’s not the case when it comes to getting into colleges in countries where college admission is based only on test scores.</p>