What songs do you think are essential to a teen's musical education?

<p>My two teenager daughters (ages 15 and 16) and I will be traveling this week with about an 8-hour car ride. I have asked each of them to make a 2 hour playlist to share and I will do the same. I am interested in sharing with them some classic music (any genre) that could be considered an essential part of someone’s musical education. </p>

<p>So, which artists/songs do you think constitute “must know” musical vocabulary? Is it The Beatles, Evis, Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd, Earl Scruggs, Bob Dylan, etc.?</p>

<p>Rod Stewart’s American songbook. Michael Buble is a “cafe” type singer of the same genre. Nat King Cole. Sinatra. Rosemary Clooney.
Show tunes from the classics like “Mame” and “Damn Yankees”.<br>
Obviously, the Beatles (Rocky Racoon!) and the rest of the British Invasion.</p>

<p>Bob Dylan -The Hurricane (of just buy The Essential Bob Dyan album…lots of great conversations to be had over those songs)</p>

<p>The Band - The Last Waltz or any of their greatest hits albums</p>

<p>I say put in some opera music, even if it is Paul Potts doing Nessun Dorma. (Potts is the “UK Idol” and you can see his performances on youtube if you are interested.)</p>

<p>Paul Simon, both with Garfunkel and solo.</p>

<p>Bruce Springsteen- espec the earlier stuff (Thunder Road, Born to Run etc)</p>

<p>American Pie by Don McClean</p>

<p>Motown- Temptations et al</p>

<p>Jerry Jeff Walker, Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings</p>

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<p>Big bands - Glenn Miller, Tommy Dorsey, Benny Goodman
Louis Armstrong
From Broadway: Rodgers & Hammerstein, Cole Porter, Irving Berlin, Stephen Sondheim</p>

<p>From the beginnings-of-punk/alternative side of things, the Velvet Underground, as they were pretty much the seminal band for all of that. From the full-blown alternative movement, R.E.M and one of the big late 80s/early 90s Seattle grunge bands, probably Nirvana.</p>

<p>From the more mainstream side, nobody’s mentioned The Who or the Rolling Stones yet. For the Who, stuff off of Tommy, Who’s Next, or Quadrophrenia is good. For the Rolling Stones, probably just grab something from a greatest hits compilation.</p>

<p>Simon & Garfunkel and Bob Dylan are both good for 60s music with a social conscience and great lyrics. Dylan’s a bit more influential, but Art Garfunkel sings a lot better. :smiley: A toss-up. Neil Young or CSN&Y are also good for this. Maybe throw in Guthrie’s “Alice’s Restaurant” if their attention spans will last that long. For more modern social conscience music with a classic sound, U2 and Springsteen.</p>

<p>I’d probably want to include the glam/prog rock movements. Conveniently, Queen will cover both. Bowie is also good for glam.</p>

<p>Pink Floyd’s pretty essential, though I’m not sure how to label them. For modern stuff along the same lines, some of Radiohead’s more experimental stuff will do.</p>

<p>Hendrix - Are You Experienced?
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
Rubber Soul to Let It Be - The Beatles
Disraeli Gears - Cream
“Andy Warhol” - The Velvet Underground and Nico
Quadrophenia - The Who
Unknown Pleasures and Closer - Joy Division
Chronic Town to Automatic For the People - REM
Rain Dogs - Tom Waits
Many more, but I have to go to class.</p>

<p>Grateful Dead: Live Dead and American Beauty
Allman Brothers: Fillmore East and Eat a Peach
The Who: Who’s Next
Paul Simon: Graceland
U2: War
Bob Dylan: Everything
Janis Joplin: Pearl
Jimi Hendrix: Axis Bold as Love; Are You Experienced?
Parliament: Mothership Connection
Stevie Wonder: Songs in the Key of Life; Innervisions
Miles Davis: *****es Brew
Prince: Purple Rain
Bruce Springsteen: Born to Run</p>

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<p>Of course I have to say I am impressed with your willingness to listen to what 15 & 16 year olds call music.
My 17 yr old has very eclectic taste but if it was up to me- I would just have this on heavy rotation
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<p>Your kids probably already know most of the “Must Know’s” I’d go with the ones that are classics but they’ve probably haven’t heard on the radio too much. </p>

<p>Derek and the Dominos, Doobie Brothers, T-Rex, Warren Zevon, Manfred Mann, Grand Funk Railroad, Electric Light Orchestra, Edgar Winter Group, Jefferson Airplane, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Byrds, Cream, Allman Brothers, Jackson Browne, Joe Walsh…every kid grows up having listened to some Pink Floyd, Bob Dylan, Hendrix, Steve Miller, etc. Try sticking to the classics they don’t know yet.</p>

<p>You have to work up to all this mid-late twentieth century music. </p>

<p>Here’s a brief run through of classical music in the west (I cheated and looked up the timings of some of these operas):</p>

<ol>
<li>Chant, maybe Perotin’s “Alleluia. Diffusa est gratia.”</li>
<li>Early opera, “Dido and Aeneas” is one of the first operas in English, but to be honest, it’s pretty hard to tell that it’s English if you don’t have the words in front of you</li>
<li>Baroque music, something by Bach is probably best</li>
<li>More developed opera. “Don Giovanni” is one of my favorites, especially if they can look at the text in translation at some parts. You could also do a Mozart instrumental piece, but I think it’s nice for people to hear excerpts from a well-known opera if they haven’t before, especially if they can keep an open mind.</li>
<li>Beethoven</li>
<li>Schubert or Schumann, I prefer Schubert usually</li>
<li>Chopin, about the same time as Schubert and Schumann, but some Chopin is pretty well-known and recognizable. Look at preludes.</li>
<li>Liszt, for variety</li>
<li>More opera, most notably Wagner (i.e. Tristan und Isolde)</li>
<li>Debussy, they should like Clair de Lune</li>
<li>Stravinsky, especially if either are dancers (Rite of Spring)</li>
<li>Then you get into weird modern music. I’d suggest maybe Ives or Varese to cover the twentieth century.</li>
</ol>

<p>Anyway, I don’t imagine any of you would want to listen to all this at once. I’ve never played it all in a row before (though it may be sort of fun to do). To boil it down, I’d definitely include some Gregorian chant or other kind of chant. Some of it is pretty cool. Then Bach for the Baroque period, Mozart for Classical, Beethoven for the beginnings of romantic music (important since he’s such a big name), Chopin as a later romantic composer and an 1800s example, Wagner to cover opera, Debussy so that they can listen to Clair De Lune (think: Ocean’s 11), Varese or Babbitt for a taste of modern classical music, complete with electronic music mixed in. You could obviously boil this down even more to chant, Beethoven, later opera, modern music. </p>

<p>Some of the pieces are enjoyable to listen to. Some aren’t as pleasing to the ear but aren’t supposed to be. I think it’s good for people to have a taste of some different examples of “classical music,” which is so often just lumped together and discarded as a genre by teens. Going at it semi-chronologically should make the different pieces make more sense than if they were all randomly mixed together.</p>

<p>Oh, and throw in some folk music, too. World music would be interesting, as well, but it’s not my forte.</p>

<p>An 8-hour car ride isn’t all that long, especially since you probably won’t listen to music the whole time. We do this several times a year, and usually wind up negotiating among various tastes, or choosing some theme (e.g., artists working in Chicago). </p>

<p>Two-hour playlists are a LOT of work. I would pick two or three albums and leave it at that, don’t try to cover everything worth hearing.</p>

<p>Also, it helps if what you play while you are (or someone else is) driving is high-energy, get-engaged stuff. Not Phillip Glass (at least not for me).</p>

<p>People have had a lot of good suggestions, and mine would probably be similar. (Actually, we have a limit of one or two classic rock/folk records per trip, otherwise my wife wouldn’t listen to anything else.) If you are going to go with the classic American songbook, however, I would recommend Ella Fitzgerald, or Ella and Louis Armstrong (boy are those records great!), or a Frank Sinatra greatest hits, over Rod Stewart (ewwwww!), Michael Buble, or even Michael Feinstein.</p>

<p>Add some Aaron Copland to the end of Corranged’s list</p>

<p>Oh, good addition. How about Rhapsody in Blue, too.</p>

<p>The girls will probably want to sleep for a good portion of the car trip. When my family takes long car rides–sometimes ones far longer than 8-hours, us kids usually listen to our iPods, and our parents talk about work. We have trouble agreeing on music; my dad hates most of what we would want to listen to, and sometimes everybody hates what I want to listen to. So, the idea for each person to come up with a long playlist and everybody listens to everybody else’s is a good one because you’re forcing everyone to try to enjoy a variety of music. Your idea to give your girls a taste of a lots of different types of music is good, too. JHS brings up a good point, though, that a sampling of music like this may not bring up the type of music that you want to listen to while driving. I wouldn’t want to listen to most of the pieces I named while driving, though I do think they are overall important when trying to give an overview of music.</p>

<p>How about Taj Mahal, Los Lobos, Traffic, Phish, Nanci Griffith, Emmylou Harris, The Seldom Scene Live at the Cellar Door, Sly and the Family Stone.</p>

<p>To add to corranged list, Pavarotti’s “Nessun Dorma” is one of the best recordings (sorry, vicarious - Potts doesn’t hold a candle, and I’m a big believer that if you’re introducing something, introduce the best). This would be on the top of my list particularly if the kids didn’t know who Pavarotti was when he died.</p>

<p>For the female voice, Beverly Sills (soprano) or Marilyn Horne (mezzo). Horne had some beautiful duets with Joan Sutherland as well.</p>

<p>Personally I would probably drive off the road if I had to listen to most opera.
What might be fun for them is to dig up songs that you listened to at their age-
I know I get a kick out of my Ds listening to Carole King and the Clash.
What I also like to do- but don’t get away with much, is play songs I used to play while driving them around in the car. ( they both would get ear infections and the car was the only thing that could soothe them)
Tickle tune typhoon, Charlotte Diamond, Free to be You and Me. ;)</p>