What tier of college can I get into?

I totally understand that i’m not ivy material, but I’m curious about what level of school I can get into. Preparing stat dump…
EC’s up until this Junior year: (Incredibly lackluster but hey, it’s whatever man)
Varsity football 2 years Fresh and Soph
Pole vault 3 years
Academic team 3 years
Job mowing yards during the summer between Soph and Junior year
Job between Junior and Senior year
NHS member next year/ Senior year
By far my greatest EC: I’ve been powerlifting (bench, squat ,and deadlift competitions) since 7th grade. I won state in my weight class 7th, 8th, placed 2nd in 9th, placed 3rd in 10th, and 3rd this year. This is definitely my favorite extra curricular.
Academics:
30 ACT (Taking the SAT this summer and I should do better on it based on practice)
National merit commended
4.0 unweighted (Not sure if my school administrators know what a weighted GPA is)
Going to be a PLTW graduate
AP’s Physics 1 this year and Physics C and Calc AB next year. I should get a 4/5 on the Physics 1 based on my practice test.
I’ve taken the toughest work load possible at my school (not very tough … at all… regular algebra II is considered
an honors class for smart people out here ).
Hooks??
First gen college student
I come from a tiny a** rural school in a rural state with ~200 students, and have to drive to the local VoTech just to take my AP classes in an math/physics/PLTW program.

Also, if you have any tips for EC’s this coming year i’m all ears. Thanks guys/gals.

Do like engineering? We will need to know this for recommending colleges. I admire your drive to push hard for a better education than is offered at your school.

What is your plan for this summer?

Would working on something like this interest you or mentoring younger kids in a project?
https://www.marinetech.org/rov-competition/

I’m interested in engineering, but I’ve also considered majoring in a science and shooting for PA school or maybe even med school. I plan to work this summer and take a community college class, and yes I’d totally be interested in that sort of thing . I’ve recently been tossing around the idea of assisting in summer school tutoring. Thanks!

I don’t know if you read the book or the later movie called Spare Parts. The MATE competition is what those kids competed in 2004.

The tier of the college does not matter. Tiers are contrived. What matters is what you do. Look who produces the most Fulbrights, Rhodes, you name it. It’s not a who’s who of elite schools. It’s a who’s who of Podunk Us. You’re far better off getting a high GPA and being engaged in something additional like research or an engineering club at Podunk U than you are disengaged and a C student at MIT.

Many colleges have special recruiting events for students bringing a diverse viewpoint to college. Often first generation students are included under that umbrella. Here is a list I made a few years ago. You can dig through it to see who considers first gen for these programs. If by chance a link doesn’t work, you can figure out which college it is and contact them for more information. Applications will open for these starting from August.

Harvey Mudd http://newwww.hmc.edu/admission/fast/fall-fast-program-seniors/

http://admission.scrippscollege.edu/discoverscripps

http://www.middlebury.edu/admissions/visit/programs

http://www.wesleyan.edu/admission/visiting_campus/transportation_assistance.html

http://www.grinnell.edu/admission/visit/gdpp

http://www.whitman.edu/admission/visit/visit-scholarship-program

http://www.bates.edu/admission/prologue/

http://new.oberlin.edu/arts-and-sciences/admissions/mvp/apply.dot

http://www.fandm.edu/summit

http://www.conncoll.edu/admission/visiting-campus/explore-weekend/

http://barnard.edu/node/6934

https://college.lclark.edu/offices/admissions/multicultural_recruitment/lead/

http://admissions.tufts.edu/voices

http://admission.enrollment.cmu.edu/pages/celebration-of-diversity-weekend

http://www.wellesley.edu/admission/falltravelgrant
http://www.bates.edu/admission/prologue/

http://www.kenyon.edu/x1697.xml

https://williams-uga.edu.185r.net/survey/?id=104

https://www.amherst.edu/admission/diversity/divoh

http://www.oxy.edu/admission-aid/connect-us/guidance-college-counselors/fall-mvp

http://apps.carleton.edu/admissions/visit/TOC/

http://www.brandeis.edu/admissions/seed/

http://admission.enrollment.cmu.edu/pages/celebration-of-diversity-weekend

http://www.kzoo.edu/admission/visiting/multicultural-program/

http://simpson.edu/admissions/visit-simpson/fly-in-program/ $150 towards airfare

http://www.uiowa.edu/admissions/email-landing-pages/mvd/email.html free bus from Chicago

http://enrollment.rochester.edu/admissions/mvp/ Univ of Rochester

http://www.uvm.edu/admissions/undergraduate/visiting/?Page=discover.html U ofVermont

http://denison.edu/campus/admissions/schedule-a-campus-visit/air-denison-recommendations up to $500

http://www.lawrence.edu/admissions/visit bus from St Paul and Bloomington MN and IL

http://www.pomona.edu/admissions/diversity/msap-fall-weekend.aspx

http://www.trincoll.edu/StudentLife/Diversity/Preview/Pages/default.aspx

http://www.union.edu/admissions/_prv/getting-to-know-u/

http://www.brown.edu/admission/undergraduate/student-color-open-house few details

Now the elephant in the room is finances. Have a frank talk with your folks as to how much the budget will be. For every college you are interested in, you and your parents then need to run the Net Price Calculator to see if the budget is possible or if you need to pursue merit scholarships. Each college has different priorities and methods of assessing this. The crowd that hangs out in the financial aid subforum can guide you through that.

"Now the elephant in the room is finances. "

I think that there might be three elephants in the room.

One is finances. Do you know what you parents can afford? What state are you in? How good is the state university?

Another elephant in the room is sports: You were varsity football freshman and sophomore years. You are doing very well at powerlifting and pole vault. Do you know whether you are a candidate for an athletic scholarship? Also, even if you don’t get an athletic scholarship, getting noticed by college athletic coaches can help you get into universities.

However, the biggest elephant by far is finding the right fit for you. If I am reading your post properly you are a straight A student, taking the academically strongest course load possible in your school, driving to a local VoTech to take AP classes, and a great athlete. The problem here is that you might be able to get into very academically demanding universities, which means that you are going to need to figure out whether you want to go to an academically very “tough” university.

If I am reading your post correctly then you are taking SAT practice tests ("…I should do better on it based on practice"). That is good because you will be comparing your SAT scores to the SAT scores of other students, most of whom (at least the high scoring ones) have also taken SAT preparation classes. This will give you an “apples to apples” comparison and some idea how you stack up against other students at various universities, which in turn will at least provide a hint regarding how tough you will find any particular school. Hopefully AP tests will also give you a hint.

“I totally understand that i’m not ivy material”

I am not convinced that you are ivy material. However, I am not convinced that you are not ivy material. Your academic preparation is probably a bit short of that available to most kids who end up in ivy league schools. Generally I think that in cases such as this the safest approach might be to shoot for a tier just short of the ivies, and if you find that easy and still have straight A’s then shoot for an ivy or other top university for graduate school.

For ECs for senior year, I would suggest that you stick with what you are good at and what you like to do. You seem to be good at sports. I think that many universities like sports. Also, I have heard that universities like students who show a passion for whatever they are doing.

@iLoveRockAnRoll
I found another fly in program
St Olaf College.
https://wp.stolaf.edu/admissions/fly-in-program/

Congratulations on your hard work and success!

Please don’t think of it as not being Ivy material. Students accepted to Ivy schools are usually strong academically but so are many students at many other schools. So much more goes into admissions than straight-up intelligence, however defined. Many, many students at non-Ivy schools are just as hard working and bright as those at Ivies. Many will do “better” after college.

It’s not WHERE you go to school it’s HOW. Work hard. Embrace opportunities. Learn from the amazing people around you–faculty, staff, and fellow students. Treat everyone with respect and dignity. You’ll do great. Of the ten most successful people I know (personally and professionally) one attended an Ivy. Almost everyone went to public universities, most not on any Top 100 list.

If cost is an issue, obviously look at your state schools. You seem a likely candidate for your state flagship or state engineering school. For OOS, look for schools that provide lots of aid. Among publics, University of Alabama is known for merit scholarships for OOS students. Many private schools offer lots of aid, Case Western, University of Pittsburgh, Miami of Ohio, RPI, RIT, and Worcester Polytechnic Institute (WPI). I love to tout WPI–highly ranked, great campus, nice part of the city. Students have some of the highest starting salaries of all schools. It has one of the most hands-on programs with lots of project-based learning. Students take 3 classes per term, which are shorter than at most schools.

A lot of these schools offer merit aid pretty frequently at 25-40% of tuition, though that obviously varies a lot. Try to find lists that show what schools meet full financial need. I believe Clark University, also in Worcester, meets financial need. A lot of the schools that do are the wealthiest and most competitive, but not all.

Some ideas: Visit schools if you can, taking advantage of the fly-in programs if that is applicable. For smaller or mid-size schools that seem interesting, you might reach out to the admissions officer (AO) for your state. These are usually listed on the people section of the admissions page. Now/summer are good times of the year; Class of 2017/21 rush is over. Let them know just the basics about yourself and why you are interested and if the school will be visiting anywhere in your area. College AOs often travel in the fall to get the word out about their schools. You may be able to talk to someone from the school in a nearby city. Or you can discuss visit opportunities. It’s great to open a dialogue. Admissions can be personal at smaller schools.

One additional tip: Always be positive in your correspondence. That is important in admissions and many other areas of life. They will know from the info provided by your school that it offers a more limited range of classes than other schools and will take this into account. No need to tell them. Focus instead on your hard work and goals and what you will bring to a college community.

Good luck!

Update: Thanks for all of the help! I just got my state act back, and I got a 31. Yay!

Was it the ACT with writing? Many students don’t know that this is preferred by the colleges you could attend.

No, it was my third attempt by the way: 30 in June, 30 in December, and 31 in March. This was a test run for mandated testing in our state and they didn’t include the essay. I had no idea that it was important. My counselor actively advises kids not to take it lol. Thanks for the info.

It’s good to do the essay portion of the ACT, but we found only a small % of the schools of interest in our family required it. Of course, if one of your top choices requires it, then it’s important.

Congrats on the improvement and strong score! Does it super-score higher? You can add up your highest subsection scores and divide by 4. ACT and schools round up to get the super-score composite. So a 31, 31, 32, 32 as highest sub-scores would obviously be a 31.5, so a 32 super-score. Schools that super-score for admissions report those scores when publishing their ranges.

I wrote this up for another student - I am copy/pasting it here for you.

Almost every college gathers a set of statistics on a common form. These are called The Common Data Set. You will need to google the college name and common data set.

For example: Vassar http://institutionalresearch.vassar.edu/docs/Vassar-College-CDS-2015-16.pdf
At many LACs guys have a higher acceptance rate than the girls. You will find the breakdown of applications by gender in section C1. Guys had an acceptance rate of 35%; girls had a rate of 21%. Keep this in mind as you look at colleges and check it out.

There is a chart in section C7 where the colleges check off criteria that they consider important. Vassar does not consider the level of applicant interest. Some some colleges do. Also check how important GPA is to them.

Section C8c for whether or not the ACT/SAT essay is required

Section C9 breaks down score ranges.

Section C21 shows you how many students were accepted in the early decision round. Some colleges are accepting 30-40% in the early round which throws off the true acceptance rate of the regular round.

There is all kinds of good data in there.

According to the Common Data Set, St Olaf does not require the writing test.

edited: Have you ever had the chance to be on any college campuses? Do you have a preference for large (10,000+), medium (4-9,000), or smaller colleges?

As a first generation college student you may be eligible to join this internship program. My understanding is that they work with any ethnicity now but I could be wrong. In the past it was for URMs.

My husband was a member of INROADS which matches college students with businesses for paid scholarships. For him they did a terrific job of exposing him to interesting workplaces, quality internship work, and having a job offer as he graduated from college. He ended up taking a job in a different city but INROADS experiences had given him the skills he needed. Recently I know of a student from our rural area who was able to join INROADS in the city where his college was located. He is now working for the company where he interned.

COLLEGE PROGRAM
The college program is for students interested in the fields of Business, Finance, Accounting, Economics, Engineering (STEM), Supply Chain Management, Computer Science/MIS, Healthcare, Retail Management and Liberal Arts

You do not need to start with them your freshmen year. It is ok to start during your junior year of college and have just one summer with them.

Links:
https://inroads.org

https://inroads.org/for-current-interns/find-your-regional-office/

https://inroads.org/internships/apply/

“It’s good to do the essay portion of the ACT, but we found only a small % of the schools of interest in our family required it.”

I agree that if possible you should think about where you are likely to want to apply, and check and see what they require. Neither of my daughters applied to any university that required the essay.

My super-score is a 32: 33E, 32S, 31R, and 30 math

I’ve been on both of my state’s universities campuses, but it was briefly. I’m not entirely sure, but I think that I would like a large school.