What will the final straw be for Bush 'defenderers?'

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<p>NO customer information given out, just who I call, when, and for how long,and with all the truth not out there, how do we know they are telling us the truth, they told us months ago, it is only international calls, americans arent being watched</p>

<p>big fat fib</p>

<p>and “our party is about more than it has become”- a party is its people and its leaders - what does that statement even mean</p>

<p>and liberal media, yeah, that the reason Bush is doing so badly, everyones fault but his</p>

<p>and now:</p>

<p>Justice Signals Wider Probe
Panels Asked to Cooperate By John Bresnahan
Roll Call Staff
May 15, 2006
Federal prosecutors are seeking to interview at least nine current or former staffers on the House Intelligence, Appropriations and Armed Services committees as they widen their probe into the bribery scheme involving former Rep. Duke Cunningham (R-Calif.), according to House officials. </p>

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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha</p>

<p>driver has a sense of humor after all!</p>

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<p>driver -</p>

<p>Which dirty tricks?</p>

<p>Nixon ordered spies to search the office of the Democratic National Committee. Bush uses spies to search the phone records of reporters (maybe we should reopen the question about NSA eavesdropping of Christiane Amanpour)</p>

<p>Nixon ordered the IRS to stop an investigation of Howard Hughes. Bush will not allow a Justice department investigation of the NSA eavesdropping of international calls of US citizens.</p>

<p>Nixon ordered the IRS to audit the tax returns of Larry O’Brien, head of the Democratic National Committee. Cheney orders the leaking of information to discredit Joe Wilson.</p>

<p>Dirty, dirty, dirty.</p>

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<p>Why are libs so dirty? Cause they fell in the mud!! HAHAHehhehe</p>

<p>Jk, but seriously…</p>

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<p>Lets us see, we have republicans at stripper parties, republicans in jail for bribery, various republicans indicted, more under investigation</p>

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<p>And are republicans the party of open government and reform…tsk tsk</p>

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<p>Think the list of indicted, convicted, and scandal-investigated GOP people is a small one? Check out theWayneMadsenReport.com for the list and what they’ve done:</p>

<p>Alabama:
US Sen. Richard Shelby
Gov. Robert Riley</p>

<p>Alaska:
State Senate President Ben Stevens (son of US Senate Pro Temp Pres. Ted Stevens)
US Sen. Ted Stevens</p>

<p>Arkansas<br>
Arkansas Republican Party</p>

<p>Arizona
US Rep. J. D. Hayworth
US Rep. Rick Renzi</p>

<p>California<br>
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger
US Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham
US Rep. Dana Rohrabacher
US Rep. Doug Ose
US Rep. Richard Pombo
US Rep. John Doolittle
US Rep. Ed Royce</p>

<p>Colorado<br>
Colorado Republican Party</p>

<p>Connecticut<br>
Gov. John Rowland
US Rep. Rob Simmons</p>

<p>Delaware<br>
Attorney General Jane Brady </p>

<p>Washington, DC</p>

<p>Jack Abramoff, GOP lobbyist
Adam Kidan, DC Dial-a-Mattress franchise owner in DC and Abramoff associate since College Republican days when Abramoff was chairman
Michael Scanlon, former chief of staff to Tom DeLay
Steve Rosen, American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC)
Keith Weismann, AIPAC
Larry Franklin, Colonel, USAF Reserves, Dept. of Defense
Lewis “Scooter” Libby, Vice President’s Chief of Staff
White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove
David Safavian, Head of Procurement Policy, O.M.B., former Chief of Staff, General Service Administration
Ex-Corporation for Public Broadcasting Chairman and current Broadcasting Board of Governors member Kenneth Tomlinson
Patricia Harrison, President Corporation for Public Broadcasting
Vice-President Dick Cheney
President George W. Bush
J. Steven Griles, former Interior Deputy Secretary
Mitchell Wade, former President of MZM
Tony Rudy, former aide to Tom DeLay</p>

<p>Florida<br>
US Rep. Katherine Harris, US Senate candidate
US Rep. Tom Feeney<br>
US Rep. Ric Keller</p>

<p>Georgia
Ralph Reed, candidate for Lt. Gov.
US Sen. John Isakson
US Sen. Saxby Chambliss
US Rep. Phil Gingrey
US Rep. Jack Kingston
U.S. Rep. John Linder</p>

<p>Guam<br>
Gov. Felix Camacho
Attorney for Guam Frederick Black</p>

<p>Hawaii<br>
New Hawaii PAC and House GOP PAC
Dalton Tanonaka, former Lt. gubernatorial and congressional candidate
State US Rep. and House Minority Leader Galen Fox</p>

<p>Idaho<br>
US Rep. Michael Simpson
US Rep. Butch Otter</p>

<p>Illinois<br>
House Speaker Dennis Hastert
US Rep. Jerry Weller
Republican National Treasurer Bob Kjellander
Former House Leader State US Rep. Lee Daniels (Elmhurst)
Rep. Timothy Johnson</p>

<p>Indiana<br>
US Rep. Dan Burton
Gov. Mitch Daniels
Thomas Sharp, INDOT Commissioner
Jim Kittle, state GOP party chairman
US Rep. Chris Chocola</p>

<p>Iowa<br>
US Senator Charles Grassley </p>

<p>Kansas<br>
US Rep. Jim Ryun
US Senator Sam Brownback
Adam Taff, 2004 congressional candidate (KS-3),</p>

<p>Kentucky
Gov. Ernie Fletcher
Commissioner of Transportation, Dan Druen
Deputy Personnel Secretary Bob Wilson
Chairman of Kentucky GOP, Darrell Brock,
Gov. Personnel Adviser Basil Turbyfill
Transportation Secretary Bill Nighbert
Dick Murgatroyd, Gov. Deputy Chief of Staff
Jim Adams, Deputy Transportation Secretary
Cory Meadows, Executive Director, Transportation Dept.
Environmental Protection Commissioner Lloyd Cress
US Sen. Jim Bunning
Lt. Gov. Stephen Pence
Dave Disponett</p>

<p>** I got tired of typing - it would take me hours to go through all the states, but you get the idea.**</p>

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<p>Oh brother, dig! Now I am beginning to see why you have the views that you do. Your source of “information” is just a tad wacky. Did you possibly take a look at the “rationale” for how many of those people ended up on that list? Using those standards Harry Reid should be front and center since he too took money from Abramhoff.

<a href=“http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8987534/[/url]”>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8987534/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Too bad you wasted so much time typing in all that trash.</p>

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<p>“A lot of conservatives have had enough of Bush… there just isn’t much hue and cry, perhaps because the liberal media doesn’t want to admit that we think our party is about more than what it has become.”</p>

<p>I agree that a lot of conservatives have had enough – to the great joy of the liberal media. You’re also right that the media is crowing about his loss of the base, but hasn’t attributed that to conservatives holding to our principles on fiscal responsibility, immigration and other issues. Or holding to our principles at all. The media notes the drop in poll numbers but doesn’t ever discuss what it means.</p>

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<p>“Aries: what in the world does that mean? I am so tired of that old saw that it is, once again, the liberal media’s fault. Grow up, for God’s sake.”</p>

<p>Niiiice. The point of the post is that people who hold dear their conservative principles are sick to death of Bush. Thus the poll numbers. No fault to lay. Just an observation that we hear of liberal outrage all the time, but conservative disenchantment is a non-story.</p>

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<p>“Lets us see, we have republicans at stripper parties, republicans in jail for bribery, various republicans indicted, more under investigation”</p>

<p>Should we detail the laundry list of unsavory democrats? My personal favorite bit of unsavoriness (this is my new word for the day – it’s all mine!) is the credit report fraud perpetrated against Michael Steele. Who’s next? Patrick Kennedy?</p>

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<p>Zoos, I think the media does discuss the drop in poll numbers and what they mean. I have read an awful lot about Francis F-ukuyama and George Will and Peggy Noonan and Pat Buchanan, etal. They are clear about the straying of the Bush administration from established Conservative objectives, particularly the runaway spending and immigration.</p>

<p>How is the media not covering these conservative opinions? I read articles about the changes in Bush’s poll numbers in the WaPo or NYT every other day…(those liberal rags LOL!)</p>

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<p>I am saying that the republican claimed to be all righteous, and talked on and on about getting rid of corruption, and bammmmm</p>

<p>There are many more Republicans in trouble then democracts, and what they do affects more people</p>

<p>But, hey, if you need to defend them by saying well, everyone does, tell that to your kids</p>

<p>I think all corruption is bad, but seems republicans are forgiven for it </p>

<p>Patrick Kennedy, very sad, and yeah, he should have been tested, that I will agree with</p>

<p>But look at those republicans real close and tell me you can defend what they did</p>

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<p>“Should we detail the laundry list of unsavory democrats? My personal favorite bit of unsavoriness (this is my new word for the day – it’s all mine!) is the credit report fraud perpetrated against Michael Steele. Who’s next? Patrick Kennedy?”</p>

<p>Yes!!! (there hasn’t been nearly enough discussion of Clinton on this board recently. ;)) Please provide the full laundry list.</p>

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<p>We can start with Dandy Dan from Illinois. Teddy “Killer” Kennedy.</p>

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<p>Let’s leave out anything that is more than five years old - that’s old news (exceptions made for anything to do with Bill). But the whole laundry list, please.</p>

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<p>“George Will and Peggy Noonan and Pat Buchanan, etal”</p>

<p>Those are not members of the liberal media.</p>

<p>I respectfully submit to you that I read those “liberal rags” (your words, not mine) and they do not ever present the poll numbers in the context of Bush being untrue to conservative principles.</p>

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<p>"I am saying that the republican claimed to be all righteous, and talked on and on about getting rid of corruption, and bammmmm</p>

<p>There are many more Republicans in trouble then democracts, and what they do affects more people</p>

<p>But, hey, if you need to defend them by saying well, everyone does, tell that to your kids</p>

<p>I think all corruption is bad, but seems republicans are forgiven for it </p>

<p>Patrick Kennedy, very sad, and yeah, he should have been tested, that I will agree with</p>

<p>But look at those republicans real close and tell me you can defend what they did"</p>

<p>Can you look at those democrats real close and defend THEM? The thing is that I didn’t defend anyone. I’m the disaffected base, remember? I simply pointed out the God’s honest truth the corruption is endemic. I would be happy to rail about corruption on both sides (and actually do) because that is the outrage. I don’t make it partisan, as some others (possibly you) do.</p>

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<p>"“Let’s leave out anything that is more than five years old - that’s old news (exceptions made for anything to do with Bill). But the whole laundry list, please.”</p>

<p>Some posters here seem awfully fond of the Abramoff scandal, which hits both sides pretty hard. As I said, the fraud against Michael Steele. How about the tire slashing scandal?</p>

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<p>“Can you look at those democrats real close and defend THEM?”</p>

<p>Please list.</p>

<p>Let me be clear: I am not a Democrat, and never have been. I have never voted for a Clinton (and am glad that my hands are clean from that mass murderer of children.) I will not vote for his wife. I am no fan of the Kennedy’s. I live in Washington State and will absolutely NOT vote for Maria Cantwell.</p>

<p>But, frankly, the idea that corruption (in the past 5 years) is as endemic to Democrats as to the Republicans is an idea-spin put out by the Republican spinmeisters, without even a hint of evidence. It just ain’t so. Now, if the Dems happened to be in power, would it have been so? That’s anyone’s guess. But they ain’t.</p>

<p>But if you have the full laundry list, please post it.</p>