<p>now mother of MJ has custody,at least temporarily, I am afraid for the children with bad grandpa around.</p>
<p>Debbie Rowe should fight for custody for the sake of the children. Another scenario is to transfer permanently custody to one of the Jackson siblings. They have to deal with this sooner or later because Mrs Jackson is 79.</p>
<p>Ugh, Debbie Rowe needs to stay away from those poor kids.</p>
<p>What is the story with Debbie Rowe? I guess she was sort of a surrogate even though she was married to MJ for two years. Did they live together during that time?</p>
<p>Wow, Debbie Rowe really does not want the kids.</p>
<p>[Debbie</a> Rowe: Michael Is Not Kids’ Biological Dad, I Don’t Want Them](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>Debbie Rowe: Michael Is Not Kids' Biological Dad, I Don't Want Them | HuffPost Entertainment)</p>
<p>is easily verified if anyone involved cares. It surely would come as no surprise to me if true. It could certainly affect custody if these children aren’t blood relatives of the Jackson family.</p>
<p>One from Duran Duran once said- “Why do rock stars marry supermodels? Because they can.” Celebrity and money open many possibilities an average individual doesn’t have. IMO A young man of MJackson’s wealth and standing is SO unlikely to have met, dated, loved, married, a so very average woman like Rowe. It seemed so contrived back then. It seems no less contrived to me now.
I am still skeptical of the Presley marriage too.</p>
<p>Chinablue? I remember the movie!</p>
<p>You should read Lisa Marie Presley’s myspace. She says it was a real marriage and she loved him, and I guess she would know better than any of us.</p>
<p>I don’t see why whether he is the biological father or not would make a difference in a custody arrangement. He was the legal father. If a couple gets married and uses artificial insemination for the woman to conceive, if they subsequently separate / divorce, the father isn’t in any disadvantage in a custody case because they aren’t biologically his.</p>
<p>Chinablue, the link you linked to has been discredited.</p>
<p>Mr. Joe Jackson odd behavior over the last several days may be due to the fact that as reported in WSJ, A will has surfaced that was made in 2002 and it leaves Joe Jackson out. Giving his estate worth over 1 billion dollars to his mother, children and charities.
Perhaps there was no relationship with his father in the past recent years. He and Katherine must have been still married but seperated as they were living apart.</p>
<p>[Jackson</a> Will From 2002 In Spotlight - WSJ.com](<a href=“http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124632881534571569.html]Jackson”>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124632881534571569.html)</p>
<p>I don’t doubt, Pizzagirl, that Lisa M Presley says it was a real marriage. I don’t doubt that she would know better than any of us. But what she knows and what she says may not be the same. Not very often that a person jumps up and proudly proclaims to the media that “We just married for a convenient reason”. But I am sure such marriages exist. I haven’t proof one way or another, but based on MJ’s previous and subsequent behavior, I have doubts. That’s why I use the word skeptical in my post(25).</p>
<p>Right, but she has nothing to gain at this point from anything she says. She could have said many things, or kept quiet altogether.</p>
<p>There are now reports that both the sperm and the eggs were donated and that Debbie Rowe was a total surrogate, and that she is not their biological mother, altho she did give birth to them. There are also reports that they were never legally adopted by either MJ or DR, which is recommended when the egg and the sperm are both donated and the offspring are not biologically related to either one, in case of lawsuits over who is entitled to what when the “parent” dies and there is money and property at stake. So now that MJ died, if this is true, it complicates things legally. While they were conceived and born during a marriage, their legal status is shakier now that MJ is gone.</p>
<p>And the third child’s legal status is very much a problem if he was the result of doner egg and sperm, born to a surrogate for MJ, with no biological ties, and no formal adoption papers.</p>
<p>I was wondering if he had adopted the kids. You’d think that with all the lawyers he retained, one of them would have made sure that was taken care of.</p>
<p>Wow - that’s a heck of a revelation! What a talented yet sad man.</p>
<p>If he’s on the birth certificates as the father, then that is the presumption. No one may come forward to challenge that presumption.</p>
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Who even knows what the birth certificate says. This is all so weird that it may not say what we all think.</p>
<p>I demand the Jackson children’s birth certificates along with Obama’s :-).</p>
<p>Birth certificates can be changed legally, though. I was adopted by my stepfather when I was 6 and my birth certificate was legally changed to reflect him as my father, which is really weird in a way, because I really don’t have a record of my bio father being my bio father.</p>
<p>IMO Joe jackson is an opportunist who loves the media spot light. He will take full advantage of Michael’s death to reap the financial rewards whatever that might be. For the sake of those poor innocent kids could everyone keep their mouths shut. Later on do they need to read about how they were conceived and how certain people don’t want them etc…They did not choose to be born into this bizarre situation. Michael had great talent but he was a troubled individual -noone will really know why or what the reasons for it. I remember him in his Thriller days and we were all amazed, it was sad to see his downward spiral. I don’t know if he deserved it or not. Maybe those close to him know. Anyway adults are adults, just protect those kids.</p>
<p>cartera45, when lots of money is involved, you can bet there might be someone who will challenge the DNA results. What is written on a birth certificate does not hold as much legal weight as you think, especially when a “parent” is now gone.</p>
<p>I initially opened the thread because I thought it was about Joe Jackson the British musician. *really- he is great. *</p>
<p>Michael Jackson was a year younger than I- I remember listening to his records quite often with one of my girlfriends when I was in elementary school. ( my only african american friend at that time-* I lived in the suburbs of Seattle*, my other friends preferred the Beatles- but the Jackson 5 led me down the road to Motown & I still love it)
We thought it was so cool to have someone our own age sing the songs we learned to dance to. Much more hip than the Mamas & Papas or the 5th Dimension.</p>
<p>I remember hearing about what a tyrant their father was to all the boys, but especially Michael , and I haven’t heard anything since then to revise my opinion.
Personally- I think that his father has a personality disorder and his influence contributed to the struggles of his son.</p>
<p>Many people do survive horrific childhoods it is true, but that doesn’t mean everyone can.
Did he live in Ca?
Here often times a court advocate is appointed for the children in custody or other cases, even when both parents are living and they are getting divorced.
I don’t know if that is a city, county or state issue, but it seems they should have an advocate.</p>
<p>I wonder what the law is on children born with donor egg and sperm (i.e. do you really have to adopt them?) What the birth certificate says can’t be definitive proof of paternity - otherwise, moms could put the name of whatever rich guy they could think of on the bc and get child support.</p>