one of the issues that many schools are looking at that when it comes to African American students, most AA students at selective schools are either recent immigrants or the children of recent immigrants.
Harvard addressed this in the article, Roots and Races about the lack of AA with multi-generational roots in the US.
Your son is a US Citizen to the extent that in the admissions process will be need blind to him at schools that are need blind to US Citizens and permanent residents. (meaning the ability to pay will not be a factor in the admissions process.
However, because he does not attend school in the US, his application will be read with and he will be evaluated against the international pool of candidates.
Or note the educational attainment of the parents.
Most people are aware of the stereotype of Asian academic overachievement. But that may be mostly due to an immigration process that selects high-education immigrants from Asia (50% of Chinese and 70% of Indian immigrants have bachelor’s or higher degrees, far higher than in China, India, or the US generally). Immigration from Europe, Africa, and the Caribbean may also show this pattern, but the existing non-immigrant white and black populations in the US make it less obvious to those who do not look past racial appearance. In contrast, immigration from Mexico is heavily skewed toward those of low educational attainment (lower percentage of bachelor’s degree holders than in Mexico or the US generally), so that results in the stereotype of Latino academic underachievement.
Would you mind speculating a bit on this please? Why do you think so, how strongly do you believe so, and how widespread is this policy among top schools.
I am wondering how this will affect on my U.S. citizen Asian daughter’s application if she graduates in a foreign country - school year abroad, youth exchange, intentional school, etc.
Anything for the golden ticket of elite college admissions! Maybe just do what’s best for her in the moment and let the college admissions chips fall where they may?
Colleges have regional admissions reps. This is no secret; just go to the college website and you can look up the admissions staff and the part of the country that they are responsible for. Who do you think that GC’s are going to call to advocate for their kids? How do you think those college fairs are set up? Who do you think is attending the college fair / college nights representing the college; the regional admissions rep
If your daughter graduates high school out of the country her application will be read by the admissions rep that handles the country in which her school is located.
Thanks. That was a new information for me to look into.
Would it be generally a good thing for her? If she is a California resident Asian-American who studied first 2~3 years in a boarding school in the East Coast but then graduated from a high school located in a none-Asian foreign country?
I certainly hope you wouldn’t send her out of the country just to try to get some perceived advantage in elite college admissions. That sure would be over the top.
In my previous posts, I have repeatedly stated that I am interesting in making informed choices and only minor adjustments when the benefit is unproportionally huge compare to the cost.
I have never indicated that I would to anything or pay a too high opportunity cost.
Therefore You are either making an impolite joke, or using the fallacy of Lack of Proportion.
Sometimes what’s best for her now and/or what she wants now depends on outcome prediction that can be enhanced by gathering more information.
@SculptorDadhow do you think having your kid jump around from school to school is going to benefit her. She will have to meet the graduation requirement for that particular school. She will get to the new school and won’t be part of their ranking. It will be hard for her to get recommendations where she knows no one and no one knows her. You will be doing a lot of coordinating of efforts for not a really big payoff.
It would be over the top indeed. However, in previous threads and this thread that you actively contributed, I had explained about future possibilities of her studying sculpture in an atelier or applying to UWC or EMIS or doing school year abroad or exchange student to see the world.
Whatever we do in the next few years, she plans to come back to the U.S. for her college. And I would like to be informed on consequences of various choices with mainly other purposes such as her personal growth and richness of life.
Nothing published about the admissions reading process at the UCs indicates that applications are assigned to admissions readers by geographic location of the applicant’s residence or high school. Note that this is different from whether they have regional admissions representatives (which at least some of them do).
@sybbie719, if we do, than it would be because she would want to do it for her personal growth and richness of life.
For these reasons I am guessing that the whole thing will probably have a net negative effect. What I am looking for is not a big pay off but small bonuses that can somewhat balance the negatives out.
D tells me that she loves and is good at making new friends and adjusting to new environments, as she have done it many times over while taking college courses and joining new homeschooling teen gatherings. For now she is excited to leave to the East Coast for boarding school and do the adjustment thing, and she may stay full 4 years there. But she is very interested in heavily experiencing other parts of the world, particularly Western European countries with deep cultural history. So I am trying to make options open for her.
Unless there are admissions teams of one (highly unlikely), whether or not they state it publicly, there is most likely a mechanism within the office on how they are distributing work amongst the admissions staff.
I am willing to bet money that even the UC system is broken down by region. CUNY does not public state it’s admission staff but every high school has a point person to reach out to regarding the application status of students at their school. You will not find my regional admissions person on line when you search CUNY, but everone on my team knows who he is and how to reach him.
Yes, but such mechanisms of distributing the admissions reading work are not necessarily by region.
Indeed, many admissions readers at UC are temporary employees (due to the need to read large volumes of applications), so they cannot be regional admissions representatives.
@ucbalumnus I have run the net price calculators with only my income. I have no idea about my ex’s income because he ran away and left us in a foreign country 11 years ago and we haven’t seen him since. My divorce and custody was granted by the court here on the grounds of his absence and neglect and ‘leaving to parts unknown’.
@MurphyBrown - his GC isn’t very good, however I think the school has some experience with American Colleg Applications because it is the American International School here.