What's the best winter clothing for upstate NY?

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<p>Northface, Columbia, LL Bean, Land’s End are all great. Patagonia is also great. Northface fleeces are very popular, but won’t keep her warm enough in the coldest weather. </p>

<p>To dress: layer up! Long underwear will get too hot once you’re inside. A silk camisole, followed by a turtleneck, followed by a sweater, followed by a fleece (or for under 20 degrees, a parka). For pants, most of the kids will probably wear jeans. If she’s really freezing, she can get flannel lined jeans. </p>

<p>Make sure she has good mittens or gloves, a hat, and a scarf (possibly in school colors?). For boots, I like some of the LL Bean ones, with removable liners. Ugg is really popular. Look for boots that are high enough to trudge through deep snow. </p>

<p>S went from New England to Texas. He packed a couple of sweatshirts! :-)</p>

<p>Warm dry socks are essential. I am a convert to Smartwool brand. They are warm, they breathe and they last. That last attribute is important because they are not inexpensive as socks go.</p>

<p>Marmot and Mountain Hardwear are some of the brands popular among skiing and other winter outdoors enthusiasts here in Seattle. They make fabulous waterproof yet breathable jackets and other cold and wet weather gear. Kind of pricey, but worth the money in the long run. And as someone who had experience living in a place with real winters, I second good warm socks. If your feet are freezing, no jacket will keep you warm.</p>

<p>essentials: boots that don’t leak or slip; scarves, hats, gloves - a longer cut coat with a hood; under the coat, dress in layers so you can adjust to classrooms that are overheated or not heated enough.</p>

<p>Your DD needs to wait until the cold weather begins and then see what others are wearing. In spite of all the parent comments, fashion - or at least the college version of fashion - is foremost. I can assure you that kids are not wearing long underwear and thigh-high snow boots to go between classes.</p>

<p>Oh yes they do wear long underwear. Try walking from class to class when the temperature is often times below 0 during the winter. Add the wind factor into the low temperature and sometimes the air feels so cold that it hurts. Unless you’ve lived it, you have no idea.</p>

<p>Does Binghamton count?</p>

<p>Nothing compared to Plattsburgh, Potdam, Oswego, or Burlington, VT area.</p>

<p>I guess they all sound like good places not to live or to go to school.</p>

<p>edad – It really isn’t that bad when you are 19 or 20. Not so pleasant when you are 50. Ironic, since my body fat index was in the single digits when I was 20. Now it is…higher…and the cold seems far worse.</p>

<p>Maybe the young tolerate the bad weather easier, but my D had enough good fortunate to end up in college further south. I was unlucky enough to spend years in Binghamton with its crappy climate. I have to find a better place to retire than NY.</p>

<p>I go to school in nearby Rochester, and I definately agree with getting a jacket that has a waterproof shell and warm fleece liner. Right now is a great time for fleece although yeah, most of us used to cooler weather are just wearing sweatshirts. In the winter though, its really wet and windy. This may global warming, but the past two winters here, everytime it snows it seems to melt completely within two days. Similarily, there has been a lot of sleet-that really wet heavy snow. Water-resistant boots are awesome because you’ll probably be walking in slush-puddles at some point. Also get a hat or something to keep your ears warm, the wind will get to you a lot more than cold will.</p>

<p>And I agree, as soon as I graduate I’m leaving the Rochester area. It is a very gloomy place most of the year. I like Maine better (where I’m from) its just very cold there, not windy, and its sunny a lot more than Roc is. I can’t stand this wet/windy crap. But that’s the lake effect for you.</p>

<p>“Your DD needs to wait until the cold weather begins and then see what others are wearing.”</p>

<p>Not sure where you live now edad…but…no need for her to wait. It’s already cold in much of NY…40’s in Buffalo (which, I know is somewhat balmy for someone from Buffalo…but probably cold for someone from southern CA.) NYC area had weather in the low 40’s, high 30’s early this morning…</p>

<p>I am familiar with both Western New York and SoCal, so I am going to weigh in.</p>

<p>I concur with those posters who have said that in Buffalo, function is more important than fashion. Buffalonians dress far more conservatively than San Diegans. In Buffalo, “designer label” clothing is dismissed as an overpriced frivolity, and styles considered “fashionable” in San Diego are likely to be viewed by Buffalonians as extreme, bizarre, and “I-wouldn’t-be-caught-dead-in-that!” tacky. Dressing appropriately means dressing for the occasion as well as dressing for the weather. Your daughter should dress conservatively whenever she attends the philharmonic or the theater, visits a “nice” restaurant, or visits someone’s home. For job interviews and other important meetings, she should dress very conservatively. </p>

<p>When choosing Buffalo climate clothes, your daughter should make quality her priority.</p>

<p>Buffalo weather is nowhere near as “bad” as reported by the mass media. (I much prefer it to SoCal weather.) Buffalo has four distinct seasons (not just “Winter and the Fourth of July”). Fall (late August through mid-November) is crisp, rainy, and sometimes very windy. Winter (mid-November through mid-March) is cold (but rarely below 20 degrees), very snowy, and often very windy. Spring (mid-March through May) is cold, windy, and snowy-turned-slushy through March, and then very rainy and gradually warmer from April through May. Summer (June through August) is comfortably hot and humid with frequent–and intense–thunderstorms.</p>

<p>For underwear and indoor wear, layers are the way to go. Your daughter will need long-sleeved cotton shirts, cotton turtlenecks, wool sweaters, and something warm (knee socks, long johns, dancewear leggings, or–in a pinch–panty hose) to wear under her jeans/pants. Thick, warm socks are a must. She should have flannel sheets and a quilted comforter for her bed. She will need suitable bedclothes, and a warm bathrobe and slippers. </p>

<p>Outerwear is key. From now until the end of May, your daughter will need outerwear. Yes, some native Buffalonians consider temperatures above 40 degrees to be “t-shirt weather,” but your daughter is not a native Buffalonian; she will find “mild” Buffalo weather to be exceedingly cold until she has lived in the area for awhile, and has had time to adjust to the climate. </p>

<p>For fall and spring, your daughter will need a windbreaker, a medium-weight jacket, and–most important–a good quality full-length raincoat, preferably with a detachable hood and a zip-in/out quilted lining. She will need mid-calf rain boots which keep her feet dry and warm. Boots (and casual shoes) must have good tread, because rain-soaked leaves (there will be plenty of them) are as slippery as ice. The boots should have enough leg clearance for her to tuck in her jeans/pants. She will need a rain hat, medium-weight gloves, and a scarf to keep her neck and lower face covered on exceptionally windy days. She should invest in the best quality umbrella she can find, because Buffalo winds will snap a cheap umbrella in a heartbeat. On very windy days, any umbrella (no matter how well made) will be useless–perhaps even dangerous–to her.</p>

<p>For winter, your daughter will need a full-length (at or preferably below the knee) warmly-lined coat, and a thick quilted mid-length jacket with a hood. She will need warm wool hats, thick wool scarves, thickly lined gloves, and–most important–thickly lined mid-calf to knee-high snow boots with exceptionally good tread. (Icy streets and sidewalks are treacherous.) As with her rain boots, her snow boots should have enough leg clearance for her to tuck in her jeans/pants. </p>

<p>Your daughter’s bookbag/backpack, purse, shoe bags, and other carry-alls should be rain and snow-resistant. Her watch should be water-resistant. If she wears contact lenses, she will find it painful to wear them on exceptionally windy or frigid days; on those days, she should wear her glasses outside, and then change into her contacts once she gets inside.</p>

<p>Your daughter should expect buildings to be well-heated. Fortunately, Buffalo is a walkable city–there is always someplace to duck into to get out of the cold. The public transit system is good; your daughter will not need a car (or have to resort to taking taxis) to get almost anywhere she wants to go. She should listen to weather forecasts and heed them. On extreme weather days, local radio will be her best source of information about emergency closures and cancellations.</p>

<p>I think your daughter will love Buffalo. (Go Bills!) I wish her the best.</p>

<p>Timecruncher, what a wonderful and thorough post. </p>

<p>Having read the entire thread, I will only add another store to look for some of the above-mentioned outerwear at decent discounts is Burlington Coat Factory on Niagara Falls Boulevard.</p>

<p>The hidden secret is that folks here also check out Goodwill and Salvation Army on Transit Road near Main Street first, saving hundreds of dollars. What they can’t find there, they seek at retail prices in the malls. Niagara Boulevard box stores are good. On a map, go to Niagara Falls Blvd north of Sheridan and up towards Robinson Road. It’s all there in a 3 mile-long strip. I find the Galleria kind of an overwhelming monster mall, although once you park the deed is done. </p>

<p>In actual fact, my family never goes into retail stores anymore, preferring to buy every garment on Ebay. We find the mall stores useful to see which styles and sizes we admire, then go home and buy the same stuff on Ebay for deep discounts. It’s a lifestyle choice. :)</p>

<p>Biggest dilemma: some 90% of all body heat leaves through the head, but the ski caps mash down the hair. Solutions include: fleece earbands, partial hats with no actual top, loosely wrapped neck scarves, or just freezing to have beautiful hair.</p>

<p>We put up with the weather because the people in the Buffalo/Niagara region are warm, down-to-earth, and community-spirited. To wit: Tim Russert, Wolf Blitzer, and the Goo Goo Dolls. We feel sorry for those who endure hurricanes, mudslides, wildfires and tsunamis.</p>

<p>To experience the snow, obviously!</p>

<p>Buffalo winter is fearsome unless we have global warming effect. But so far the weather has cool much earlier than prior yrs, so it may return to normal winter pattern this year, and it will be rude awaking to Southern Cal girl. She will also need high boots with good grip.</p>

<p>I started on my daughter this week. I went to online stores at Lands End and Northface and started emailing her the items to think about. The online catalogs have a click and send feature. I emailed her gloves, hats, coats and explained a bit about how to layer and how where she is at can get dangerously cold. (lake Superior) I got a shopping list and helped her get scraf hat and mocassins for around the dorm instead of flip lops. Next month I’ll get the northface jacket she picked out.</p>

<p>The most important thing to do is to layer. If you are from Ca you should find a base layer that works for you. Silk. wool or synthetic. Cotton base layer is a no-no. Then winter is a piece of cake…</p>