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<p>LOL…funny but true. Many statements that make no sense and are not logical. Not to mention, are also intolerant.</p>
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<p>Thank you for adding some much needed humor to this thread!</p>
<p>“I respect that you are not a native English speaker”</p>
<p>I don’t.</p>
<p>This person is making NO effort to be polite, to understand the basics of American life, he calls people ignorant based on his own imagined idea of what they believe - the normal respect and admiration I have for immigrants does not apply in this case. I can’t imagine migrating to a new country, and then expressing myself this way, and not being particularly careful that my language was clear. </p>
<p>In this instance holding him as responsible for clear expression is just as appropriate, IMO, as it would be for a native english speaker.</p>
<p>POIH…in some posts this AM as in some posts yesterday, you have yet to answer how this girl’s observance of her holiday impacted anyone else at the grad ceremony. Her speech was recorded. Were anyone else’s rights violated? How were any others in attendance affected by a recorded speech?</p>
<p>I have found a huge difference between Western atheists and Asian atheists. For the most part, Westerners generally respect the beliefs of others and wouldn’t dream of calling religious beliefs “superstitions.” POIH reminds me of Japanese atheist friends; there’s a complete, total void of acceptance of any sort of religion, especially Judeo-Christian beliefs.</p>
<p>It’s kind of like the brain development experiment. They put a kitten in a room with only horizontal lines from age 9 - 13 weeks. When it got out, it bumped into table legs. Its brain missed the opportunity to learn to recognize vertical lines. POIH is way passed the age to learn tolerance and acceptance, so it’s useless to even try. Add to that an extreme inferiority complex (and anger at having a “B/C student” as a boss? who showed up with ashes on his forehead one Wednesday in March?) and CCers are united, regardless of “past scuffles.”</p>
<p>lock it!!! no productive discussion is being had in this thread. and the OP’s opinion clearly isn’t changing any time soon.</p>
<p>Brooklynborndad, what I am saying is that I understand that English is not his native language and so can see why some of his writing is poor. But given that situation, he should acknowledge that and not expect that others reading his sentences take them to be logical. The thread heading alone is a good example. He may not be able to help that his English writing is not up to par, but should not be upset when others question the illogical nature of it.</p>
<p>“As I indicated before all of the people who actually responded to this thread bashing OP are the one that will have problem sitting or sharing a meal with a person of different faith”</p>
<p>I have absolutely no problem sharing a meal with someone of a different faith, or no faith at all. I do have a problem sharing a meal with a dope.</p>
<p>interesting bonnie</p>
<p>We have had two Japanese exchange students at our house, but they have come from a Buddist School that TJ has an exchange program with. The first, on being asked at the end what her favorite part was said “synagogue”</p>
<p>This may be a bit off topic, but it would certainly be quite interesting to have POIH as a young person at a Seder. He would sure ask a LOT of questions!!!</p>
<p>Just found this thread while enjoying my morning coffee and the image of the argumentative teen at Grandmas Thanksgiving dinner comes to mind. You know, the one who spends a good amount of fore thought and time determining what mode of clothing and what topic of dinner conversation would get the most indignant rise out of the other - mostly adults -present. POIH seems to not have outgrown this stage…how sad.</p>
<p>We’ve always just found it best to smile (smirk?) in these situations and then continue to enjoy the company of the other - more respectful - individuals .</p>
<p>Actually, I think I am learning a great deal about China’s problems on the edge if its empire from this thread. The combination of contempt for others, inability to recognize how culturally bound oneself is, and willingness to prescribe rigid standards for social activities is pretty frightening. </p>
<p>But maybe I’m generalizing too much. The view that an important function of education is to make ethnic minorities abandon practices and beliefs not shared by the ethnic majority is frightening enough all by itself without trying to imagine the larger thought system that supports that view.</p>
<p>‘The view that an important function of education is to make ethnic minorities abandon practices and beliefs not shared by the ethnic majority is frightening enough all by itself without trying to imagine the larger thought system that supports that view.’</p>
<p>now THATs an interesting historical point. Diane Ravitch, or am I misremembering?</p>
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<p>Exactly. Well put.</p>
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<p>Actually, won’t THAT be proof there is a God? This agnostic, fairly secular Jew with a past heaping of Catholic upbringing is anxiously awaiting THAT revelation!</p>
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<p>I can’t tell whether you are misremembering or not, because I don’t know how what I wrote relates to Diane Ravitch. Sorry! If anything, I was thinking of the fiasco of the boarding schools the Interior Department ran for American Indian schoolchildren in the 1950s (EDIT: and for a long time before that) to “educate” them out of any tribal identity or knowledge.</p>
<p> <a href=“http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16516865[/url]”>American Indian Boarding Schools Haunt Many : NPR; That describes an education system that tried to work the way POIH thinks it should.</p>
<p>"Actually, won’t THAT be proof there is a God? " </p>
<p>it would, of course, never be “proof” - even if G-d was the most logical explanation, we couldnt EXCLUDE the possibility that an alternative purely non theist explanation might yet be found. This to Fackenheim, is why no one with a modern outlook can rely on the “old thinking” regardless of the details of biblical criticism, archaelogy, etc. Our very way of thinking makes our faith reliant on an existential leap, whatever empirical data we find.</p>
<p>"I can’t tell whether you are misremembering or not, because I don’t know how what I wrote relates to Diane Ravitch. Sorry! If anything, I was thinking of the fiasco of the boarding schools the Interior Department ran for American Indian schoolchildren in the 1950s to “educate” them out of any tribal identity or knowledge. "</p>
<p>I think she wrote about how the development of mass public education in the US in the mid and late 19th century was geared to assimilating immigrants, with emphasis on the NYC school system and its “protestant” outlook.</p>
<p>OMG</p>
<p>This thread is clearly showing someone’s ignorance when they don’t take the time to learn the facts!</p>
<p>Frightening, his point of view, very frightening.</p>
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<p>Serious aha moment here!</p>
<p>If this had been shared as post#2 in this thread, perhaps we wouldn’t be on post #180!</p>