<p>Both of them are just ego-maniacs. Everyone and everything is secondary to them. I don’t believe they are even cognizant of the pain they inflict on those around them. They are too focused on perpetuating their own public images. I honestly just never saw what all the fuss was about - as “movie stars” go, both of them left me cold.</p>
<p>As movie stars I prefer Mia by a mile, but she’s certifiably crazy.</p>
<p>Maybe the thread wouldn’t go an endless loop if people keep attaching the crazy, whacko or odd label only on the mother when they have no supporting document that the mother was crazy. </p>
<p>^^^^^^
I don’t know, but that Valentine’s Card with the daggers drawn through the hearts of her and the children don’t exactly illustrate mental stability. And some would say that any woman with 15 children would have to be crazy by now!</p>
<p>Sigh, here is my [response</a> to VDay card post](<a href=“What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? - #148 by Krlilies - Parent Cafe - College Confidential Forums”>What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? - #148 by Krlilies - Parent Cafe - College Confidential Forums) citing Justice Wilk’s opinion about the card. </p>
<p>But that is only one persons opinion. And actually he is more qualified to opine on matters of law. A psychologist might have a very different reaction to that. Seems really bizarre to me. I have seen a picture of the Valentine and it has pins through the hearts of all the children and then a steak knife through the whole card. Thats just not normal no matter what emotional stress you are under.</p>
<p>I don’t think you can form an opinion on whether or not Dylan is brainwashed from a 20-year old court document from a custody hearing can you? There’s a lot more to this sordid saga than that. And, the courts have a pretty poor track record with celebrity justice. He was never prosecuted for molestation. </p>
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There were psychologists introduced as witnesses in the case. None of them indicated the mother was crazy or that the V-Day card was made by a psychopath. With his deep pockets, the father surely could have found somebody to testify that the mother was mentally ill.</p>
<p>Exactly! He could have and he didn’t. Why? Because he didn’t want to. He wanted to marry Soon Yi and be done with it. True or not had he wanted to bash Mia in court he could have but chose to leave it alone.</p>
<p>LOL! I never thought I’d be defending Woody Allen.I can’t stand Woody Allen. Never could.</p>
<p>I am sure she was really, really, REALLY angry. Wouldn’t you be?</p>
<p>Flossy, you don’t know that. He could have tried and failed to prove it. I just find it odd when someone keeps calling the mother a whack job but fails to tag the same label to the father when the custody ruling document clearly states that the father was the one grossly inappropriate to the child and the court granted custody to the mother. </p>
<p>Okay, they are both whack jobs who have been in therapy for their whole lives. It didn’t work. And, while what you say is true it leaves out decades of dysfunction. I don’t claim to know. Of course, I don’t know. But, I do know it was extremely complicated. </p>
<p>Cool, sounds fair. So far things are working out it seems with Pitt & Jolie</p>
<p>I find the story about Mia breaking a chair over Soon Yi pretty disturbing. I wonder why nobody seems to have a problem with that, when ordinary citizens would be charged with assault (with a deadly weapon?). I also wonder how it was that the responsible parties ever let either of these two whack jobs adopt any children, let alone 14-16.</p>
<p>Krillies – She accuses him of child abuse, and the very next week ask about a part in his next movie? If that isn’t whacked, I’m not sure what is. </p>
<p>He’s not someone I’d like to know, and I’m not a film fan. I did read the daily reports on the McMartin Preschool case, and the other cases that came up in that same period and I saw how lives were crushed as a result. Yale’s report is influential for me, as was Farrow’s taping – in segments – Dylan’s allegations. I find it interesting that another one of the kids is now speaking about how toxic the environment was that Farrow created. </p>
<p>I also have a colleague who was prohibited from seeing his young daughter for a year during a vicious divorce after his former wife accused him of child molestation at about the same time as the Allen case became public. It was very clear that alleging molestation was a very, very powerful way to gain the upper hand in custody determinations since very few judges were willing to take a risk. </p>
<p>Arabrab, I’m sorry about your colleague and hopefully, if he was innocent, things worked out in his favor.</p>
<p>I can’t really comment about the mother asking to be hired in his next movie, though I heard it was WA who suggested MF for the role, or the mother breaking a chair on Soon-Yi , because these are all hearsay. I like to gossip too but in this case we have a court ruling document we can use as reference. So, for now, any alleged “psychopathic” behavior on the mother’s part I feel applies to Justice Wilk’s statement on unsubstantiated rumors. </p>
<p>“Mr. Allen’s response to Dylan’s claim of sexual abuse was an attack upon Ms. Farrow, whose parenting ability and emotional stability he impugned without the support of any significant credible evidence. His trial strategy has been to separate his children from their brothers and sisters; to turn the children against their mother…His self-absorption, his lack of judgment and his commitment to the continuation of his divisive assault, thereby impeding the healing of the injuries that he has already caused, warrant a careful monitoring of his future contact with the children.” Pages 18-19 of [url= <a href=“http://www.vanityfair.com/dam/2014/02/woody-allen-1992-custody-suit.pdf]WA-1992-custody-suit[/url”>http://www.vanityfair.com/dam/2014/02/woody-allen-1992-custody-suit.pdf]WA-1992-custody-suit[/url</a>]</p>
<p>krililies, you really can’t believe what goes on and what is said unless you see many cases and see the patterns. I used to work in this area. Fathers/husbands are accused all the time and it’s impossible to prove them innocent. There is always a cloud over them forever. Many aren’t even slightly weird, but can’t prove they didn’t touch their daughters or walk in front of them naked, behavior that was perfectly acceptable when they were together last month but suddenly the mother thinks it is horrible that the father used the toilet in front of his 2 year old when that was how the family acted. There is no way to ever restore the reputation of someone accused.</p>
<p>Judge Wilk was a family court judge as this was a custody matter, not a divorce. Some of them are so prejudiced against the father that anyone can see it. I was representing a mother and the state was trying to take her children. The county attorney presented evidence and the judge took notes, asked questions, was alert. When I presented a witness (a qualified psychologist), she took off her glasses, leaned back and appeared to take a nap. I just stopped asking questions. There was a minute or so of silence. She then opened her eyes and asked if I was done, and I said no, I thought she needed a moment. Nope, keep going. Not one note, not one question. Her mind was made up before we ever entered the courtroom.</p>
<p>There is no way to unring the bell when an accusation is made.</p>
<p>Here’s the source for story about Farrow breaking a chair in a rage at Soon Yi</p>
<p><a href=“Woody & Mia: A Greek tragedy”>http://nypost.com/2014/02/08/woody-mia-a-greek-tragedy/</a></p>
<p>^^^^
I had to stop reading after the comment he allegedly made about the relationship being “good for Soon Yi’s self-esteem”. Sorry but that just enrages me. </p>
<p>In every family photo, the children look miserable. And what 3 year old needs weekly therapy? </p>
<p>I guess the poor 3 year old who had to be stuck with these two as parents. We don’t know much about how all the kids in the Farrow-Previn-Allen household turned out but I’d bet that they all have some pretty serious problems. It sounds like it was a pretty bad situation for any child to grow up with.</p>