When (if ever) do you think Duke will catch up with HYP?

[beyphy]

<p>

You should have also included 8 Ivys…

</p>

<p>Oops, forgot to put Cornell in the “lower” bracket.</p>

<p>

Bephy,</p>

<p>The two C’s are gaining quickly on Stanford in terms of student body and faculty and given their locations in NYC and Chicago it would not be surprising if they equal and surpass Stanford in a few years. In light of the NYC project, Cornell will also gain quickly on Stanford in the hard sciences and Duke is already a Stanford peer in medicine, law, and banking.

</p>

<p>I already said Duke’s equal wrt quality. But in terms of prestige i think Stanford will continue having an edge. There’s a common misconception that Stanford is an Ivy-League school. There’s no such misconception with Duke. Similar arguments apply to Cornell and Chicago. (furthermore, it’s ambiguous to say “The C in NY” since there are two Cs in NY: one in Manhattan and one in Ithica; but you do clarify later i guess)</p>

<p>

Also, Stanford has arguably the more advantageous location; it is in the heart of Silicon Valley, and many of the industries which the region cultivates are those that are experiencing growth at the moment.

</p>

<p>Sure Stanford’s in the heart of Silicon Valley. But perhaps it’s also fair to say that Stanford is the heart of silicon valley. It’s no coincidence that Stanford’s prestige skyrocketed with the # of billionaires it’s produced. It’s second behind only Harvard, whereas Duke doesn’t even make the cut.</p>

<p>[Billionaire</a> Universities - Forbes.com](<a href=“http://www.forbes.com/2010/08/11/harvard-stanford-columbia-business-billionaires-universities.html]Billionaire”>Billionaire Universities)</p>

<p>(curiously though, UCLA was featured on the 2008 list of this ranking, but for some reason excluded from the 2010 version, even though the # of billionaires it produced should have remain unchanged…)</p>

<p>

I do agree that the New Yorker article addresses what may be a rather serious problem at Stanford, but the issue in itself is more of a double-edged sword. These connections benefit Stanford quite a bit as an institution ($$$), despite potentially precluding some of the traditional intellectualism that may be found at a more cerebral institution such as Chicago.

</p>

<p>LOL (this isn’t an argument, but more of an opinion) i’m pretty sure phantasmagoric would disagree with you, and provide persuasive arguments to the contrary, especially compared to Stanford. </p>

<p>c.f.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/13914487-post49.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/13914487-post49.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;