<p>It is wedding time in our neck of the woods. The Ellebud young women are participating in two weddings in the next few months. One Ellebud is a a size 8, the other is usually a 0. The size 0 Ellebud is very size and weight aware. So…at one venue the girls were measured for their size dresses. She wears an 8 in this line. (Although to add insult the dresses leave a lot of room for boobage.) Ms. Ellebud said that she is 4 pounds over ideal weight. (5 5 at 110…skinny right?)…She is on a diet…</p>
<p>She will stop (and always has) with a four pound weight loss, but how many other young women don’t? I REALLY hop that they don’t use this designer. I am so mad I could spit.</p>
<p>It’s appalling that a young woman who is 5’5", 110 thinks she needs to be on a diet. And that dress that fits her, except in the boobs, is obviously intended for a slender woman with store-bought boobs rather than homegrown boobs. </p>
<p>Best of luck to your daughters in finding beautiful dresses that fit them.</p>
<p>I was a size 10 when I went dress shopping, and my gown ended up being a 14-- which was hard because I lost a lot of weight to get DOWN from a 14 before I went dress shopping. I made it to a 6 for the wedding, which is still a 10 in this designer. You might be surprised… I think brides will always feel pressured to look “their best” for the wedding, but society is not on board with this anymore and there is a lot of pressure not to go there. I am getting a lot of scorn for being one of those crazy brides who feels the need to lose all kinds of weight just for her wedding, but everybody forgets I was on the diet and exercise bandwagon before I ever met my fiance and have been at this for years, the wedding has nothing to do with it. I got sick, gained a lot of weight, became very unhealthy, and I have worked for two years to fix it healthily and appropriately. I have been treated like I am some sick crazy person for the last year for trying to lose weight, everybody is so eager to tell me, “oh, don’t be one of those crazy brides who lose all that weight! You’re supposed to care more about your marriage than how you look in a dress!” Like I don’t care about my marriage because I am trying to get healthy. And I am stopping at my healthy size 6-- I was only even shooting for an 8, but you know, wedding stress, it happens. </p>
<p>But wedding gowns run CRAZY SMALL, the designers have apparently not gotten the memo. And a lot of the shops around here only carry samples in 4s and 6s… which if a 10 is really a 14, you do the math. They tell you it doesnt have to really fit to try it on, but you do have to be able to wedge into it without ripping it! I am glad I lost the weight I did before I went shopping or there might not have been dresses for me to try on. It’s really not very nice, women get pressure from all sides when they get engaged. My bridesmaid dresses run a size or two small, too. After my sister nearly had a meltdown in the store I had to give all my girls a heads up that these kinds of dresses just run crazy small and don’t be shocked when they tell you to order a size or two bigger than you usually wear.</p>
<p>I thought the two lovely Ellebud daughters were bridesmaids? If they are brides, congratulations to the happy couples! Either way, sizes on clothing are just numbers and should be ignored. If the garment fits, good. If it does not, bad. </p>
<p>My D has the same issue. She seems to think all smalls should fit.
Well, life would certainly be easier if that were true, but there are as many different sizes of “small” as there are incomes that are considered " middle".</p>
<p>Thank you all for the support. I do know that Ms. Ellebud is going to lose her 4 pounds and then stop. But how many won’t stop? Or can’t stop? The bridesmaids dresses for one wedding have been purchased. The other dresses will be chosen…but to be honest I am angry…I do remember the time when a size 6 was in reality a 12. The designer wanted his or her clients to feel better.</p>
<p>And yes Fang…there isn’t much of the homegrown boobage around here. One Ellebud wants implants. I have reminded her than it might be best to keep her own healthy boobs…much too much breast cancer in our family.</p>
<p>It’s horrible that fashion designers and others try to persuade us there is something wrong with our bodies, when we are just fine the way we are. </p>
<p>Having bridesmaids dresses made by a seamstress can turn out to be cheaper and better than buying off the rack, sometimes.</p>
<p>She’s being # conscious. She should go by how she looks in her regular clothes and laugh at the absurdity of this designer’s sizing. Can padding be built into the dress?</p>
<p>Bev, “how many won’t stop?” Well, the estimated rates of eating disorders among young women is anywhere between 3-10% at any given time. Personally, I think the number is somewhere around 15% if not higher. </p>
<p>It makes me so sad. I will never, ever understand the obsession with numbers and body image. </p>
<p>No young woman is going to be plunged into an eating disorder because of sizing on a particular dress. The motivations for these illnesses go far deeper and take years to develop. As for OP’s daughter, her reaction is ridiculous, and OP should tell her to get a grip.</p>
<p>Yes! I so agree! OMG. Losing 4lbs is no big deal and Bev knows this so it’s not even a problem for her daughter. To extrapolate that into some other bride might catch anorexia from the number on a wedding dress is simply ridiculous. </p>
<p>My worry here is that the salesperson wasn’t reading the chart correctly and the dresses are going to come in huge. (If they ordered them.) Something seems strange that 5’5 110 pounds would be an 8.</p>
<p>I recently ordered a dress online from a UK supplier to wear to two weddings this summer. Whenever I’ve bought clothing items in Europe, I’ve bought at least one size up, many times, two sizes up. So at the place online where it asked for my size, I gave them my U.S. size, but when the dress arrived, it was two sizes up in U.K. numbers. They automatically size up two sizes when Americans order from this catalog. Any chance these dresses are coming from a European supplier?</p>
<p>Last time I helped anyone shop for wedding gowns was years ago, but I do recall that street sizes were three or four sizes smaller than for most of the designer lines. Does your D want to lose weight just because she “has” to buy an 8 or would she feel that way regardless? </p>
<p>As for the bust size, it is much easier to alter and take in something than letting out fabric that is not there. None of these gowns are meant to be worn off the rack. </p>
<p>I completely understand about Ellebud’s daughter wanting to lose four pounds. If she has always weighed 106, then that’s what she wants to weigh. I have a similar issue with my weight (I weigh less than Ellebud’s D), but I’ve learned not to discuss it with people. I totally get how it would bother people who have a very difficult time losing and/or maintaining a normal weight. </p>
<p>Wow. What a world where a size 0 thinks she’s heavy and a small busted person thinks she needs implants. I sat at the funeral yesterday of a man who died at 31. The officiant reminded everyone that it’s not what’s on the outside but what’s on the INSIDE. Perspective is a wonderful thing. </p>
<p>This reminds me of almost 32 years ago when I was pregnant with my first child.
The hospital was making plans to deliver her early and was doing a last minute sonogram just to check for size.
She was 10 weeks early & they guesstimated that she weighed 1 & 1/2 lbs.
I thought to myself, she could weigh TWICE as much and no one would ever notice I had given birth!</p>
<p>Since muscle weighs more than fat & since it’s healthier to weigh more because of muscle than to weigh less without it, people should focus on how they feel and how their clothes fit.
Needless to say not on arbritary size/weight.</p>
<p>UK sizing is indeed different from US sizing, even though they use the same even numbers. <a href=“Clothing sizes - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clothing_sizes</a>
DIL had this issue when she first got here and had to go out to buy clothes and shoes. Had to try on everything to get adjusted to US measurements (and she says UK sizing is bigger in the bust and smaller in the waist than US – which frustrates her to no end in the US. Can’t find shirts that fit well in the chest without hanging everywhere else).</p>
<p>Any bridal or bridesmaid’s gown is going to require alterations. Better to have it a little big so it can be altered than have it be too small. </p>
<p>Remember, too, that for some young women, eating disorders are based on a skewed perception of one’s appearance. Personally, I wouldn’t jump to conclusions about what someone’s triggers or precipitating events might be.</p>