When people don't vaccinate their kids

I escaped the measles, but managed to pick up chicken pox and mumps back to back! I was a teen, and I remember that both were horrible experiences. With chicken pox, I needed sleeping pills of some sort to keep me sedated. Can’t imagine getting the measles!

If the CDC confirms the patient zero, lawsuits might fly!

I actually read in an article yesterday that the rates of parents refusing to vaccinate their child in CA are in a downward trend. This is a good thing.

Re my previous post, #981, here is the link: https://www.yahoo.com/health/anti-vaccination-movement-could-be-prompting-parents-to-93230779252.html

I too was born during the unreliable vaccine period, but luckily (?) for me I had the measles (both red measles and German measles) and mumps, all before the age of six. I remember my preschool years as being itchy and miserable

Welll I & my sibs were also duing the unreliable period but we HAD measles, chickenpox, and german measles. I hope we continue to have immunity! My kids both had chickenpox as well and D has had shingles to boot! I had the shingles vaccine after a very mild case. H has had shingles & the vaccine as well. Scary the non-vaccinators, especially those with grad degrees—truly they should know better!

I was born pre-chicken pox vaccine and contracted it at just a few months old. I already have a compromised immune system so I had to be monitored very closely. Luckily, it’s milder in young children than in adults.

On one hand, I’m lucky that I got it that young that I do not remember (and I have no scars that I know of from it). My parents, however, don’t feel my same “lucky” feelings about the incident :stuck_out_tongue:

I’ve been following the news on this Disneyland measles outbreak for several weeks now. They think patient zero may have been a foreign traveler from the Phillipines where measles are epidemic. Some who now have measles were unvaccinated, some were vaccinated but for some reason the vaccine didn’t ‘take’ and some were too young to be vaccinated.

At least one Orange County high school has taken an active stance to prevent a further outbreak. They had one student come down with measles. So for the next 21 days all unvaccinated students have been told to stay home from school, really for their own protection. I’d hope some of those non-vaxers are re-thinking given that three weeks off high school can really put a student behind.

And bulletins are going out on the news telling people that if they suspect they have measles to stay away from urgent care centers, doctors offices and ERs. They are told to call first and make arrangements to be seen rather than infect babies too young to be vaccinated and other unvaccinated people. We’ve had one urgent care center that had to close because one person with measles sat in the waiting room.

I saw an interview with an anti-vaxxer, and no, she was just as belligerent as ever. X(

These people are so unbelievably selfish!! I found this article on the Orange County anti-vax “cluster.”

So everyone else’s kids who might DIE from a preventable disease are just “collateral damage.” Unbelievable.

http://www.ocweekly.com/2012-08-09/news/doctor-robert-sears-anti-vaccine-cluster/full/

25% of these measles cases have required hospitalization. If I were Queen, anti-vaxxers would pay much higher health insurance rates to cover the costs.

There is a school district by me with an outbreak. All unvaccinated students are out of school for 28 days.

A MONTH of learning lost because of the parents’ idiocy. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Rich liberal parents aren’t subject to the same rules of immunology, economics & physics, as U and I.

I’ll throw my self to the sharks. I’m an anti-vaxxer, at least in the sense that I believe it’s the right of the parents to decide whether or not to vaccinate their kids. While I think it’s stupid to not vaccinate your kids, I think it’s abhorrent that some think vaccinations should be government enforced. And I’m certainly not a liberal.

No one has ever died from not being vaccinated. People have only died from getting sick.

The anti-vax mentality crosses political lines, so let’s set that aside.

What’s abhorrent is that people would be so selfish that they think their rights trump everyone else’s. I’d be fine with you not vaccinating your kids as long as they were never around anyone else who could be hurt by your decision to ignore established science and public health guidelines for the sake of your “freedoms.”

I heard somewhere that patient 0 for the California outbreak may have been a visitor from the Phillippines where measles is quite a problem.

Last month I had an MRI of my brain and they asked me if I had been to Africa lately (the specific Ebola countries). Maybe everyone is going to have to ask about whether someone has been to a measles outbreak country (or county!) and whether or not they’re vaccinated before they can be admitted to a crowded place.

I lost two Great Aunts, as infants, to preventable diseases. They emigrated from Italy with their family for a better life here but the crowded conditions in NYC in the pre-vaccine era proved to be more dangerous than the old country. My great Grandmother lost her religious faith and refused to have my Grandfather baptized when he was born because she was afraid she would lose him too.

Public health is very important, especially in crowded conditions, especially since we have shared/municipal water and sewage and for many other reasons.

The anti-vaxxers can send their children to the same school where they play Ring Around the Rosy outside during recess :)>-

That’s a distinction without a difference. They wouldn’t have gotten sick if they’d been vaccinated.

There are a lot of kids in Pakistan now, stricken w paralysis bcs the parents refuse to vaccinate their kids against polio, believing vaccination to be a CIA plot

You don’t have a right to force an entire category of people to stay some X distance from you or your kid. Their rights do trump everyone else’s non-right preferences.

They also wouldn’t have gotten sick had they not gone outside. There is a difference in my distinction.

…They became paralyzed because they got polio, not because they didn’t get vaccinated.

Actually, yes we do.
Child predators come to mind.

… which they got from not getting the vaccine.