When Privilege and Ugly Behavior Are Caught on Camera

This is breath taking. And not in a good way.

And I’d like to buy those cops a truckload of beer or whatever their favorite refreshment is.

My new role models are the two cops who cooly handled the situation.

“Kids” were all nice and none of them mentioned their prestigious institutions. As modern city dwellers they do not know about insurance and registration. I can easily imagine my kids in this situation.

Question: Did horror mother loan them her Mercedes so they could finally go for a hike?

I do have some sympathy for friends of the daughter. They, especially the young man in the cap, didn’t look like they wanted to be there at all.

@tanbiko I find it hard to believe that well educated city dwellers do not know about insurance and registration. These are basic laws that any car owner, regardless of education and locale, are required to follow. I believe the car was registered (or rather hadn’t been registered for a couple of years) in Nevada, hardly a place where the modern city dweller would not have experience with registration and insurance.

If these “kids” are city dwellers not only are they in violation of the insurance and registration laws but also could be in violation of plenty more local laws. Most states require drivers license and car registration to be changed to the state of residence within 60 of moving to the state. Apparently (at least for the car) this did not happen. This failure to register the car may also put the “kids” in the position of violating “rate evasion” laws many states in the NE have to prevent people from insuring their car in a less expensive locale.

These types of explanations just help to lead to the over privileged response we saw from the mother. How dare anyone accuse them of something they didn’t know? This can’t be right because I am a high powered investment banker (or doctor or lawyer) with an Ivy education and you are just a lowly civil servant, of course I know more than you so just let me go on ignoring the laws I have chosen to not educate myself about.

My advice, if you really think your children could be in this situation, is to have a discussion around basic, local civics and how to find out what is required should you choose to own a car. This is a discussion I had with my children when they were 15 years old that was again covered in high school civics class and is something every resident should know long before they run off to college and beyond.

People are busy. It can happen. It just reminded me of my own slip. I drove my car without the registration for over a year. I didn’t know I hadn’t renewed the registration. I did have the insurance and got the annual inspection done, Finally, someone at the shop caught it and told me my registration expired.

Geek that I am, I watched the entire 1 hour video. The original officer and the driver (the hat guy) had an amazingly nice interaction and everything went smoothly. They both acted like friendly, mature adults who understood and had sympathy for each other. The driver and passengers were given the option to call a friend to pick them up, call an Uber, or take a courtesy ride back to the police station, and they were allowed to remove their belongings from the car.

The tone totally changed as soon as the mom showed up and started up with her “friend of the mayor”, “heading up over 4,000 police officers” routine.

I think this is a situation that demonstrates how taking care of everything for your kids isn’t always in their best interest. The car was owned by the mother of the driver’s girlfriend, who lives in Nevada. The girlfriend was a passenger. The car hadn’t been registered for over 18 months, which meant it probably wasn’t insured either. It seems like because the car wasn’t registered to her the girlfriend took a hands off approach, and since the mother wasn’t the drivers she did the same. The result is that the boyfriend got a whopping fine for driving an unregistered, uninsured car and they likely had to find another way to get back to NYC. Had the adult daughter had total responsibility for the car the renewal notices would have gone to her and it’s likely the car would have been registered and this group would have gone on their merry way with a warning.

@Iglooo Same – my husband unwittingly drove with an expired registration for many months before one day I happened to notice the sticker on his plate. However, had he been pulled over and his car towed, it would have totally sucked but we would have accepted the consequence. (Fortunately we never had to find out how we would have reacted!! B-) )

Ha, to pass the time at traffic lights, I always look at the license plate on the car in front of me. It’s shocking how many times the sticker is expired. I probably see at least one every day I’m out.

Reminds me that mine expires in four days!

I wonder whether Turner uses the same “techniques” for her fundraising and PR campaigns. These attitude and behavior are very difficult to hide during social interactions. Must be a lovely person to be friends with 8-|

I finally got a chance to watch this. Oh my goodness she was a piece of work for sure. I actually got stopped in Detroit once, I had gotten a new plate and registration for a new used car from out of state, shoved everything in my glove box and totally forgot to put it on the car. I drove for months before the Detroit police actually spotted the expired out of state plate. Embarrassing. They were very kind and I did not get a ticket. It was right around Christmas and I was on a work trip. They probably could tell I was one frazzled mom not anywhere near my home town and a babbled and blubbered an explanation and simply told me to get it put on right away. Fortunately it was during the auto show set up so finding someone with a metric wrench was easy peasy otherwise I would have had to buy duck tape until I got back home.

I got pulled over for expired registration right after moving to my current state. Fortunately I had the registration paperwork in the glovebox like always, because it turned out that the DMV had actually sent me a sticker with the wrong (previous) year and I had stuck it on without noticing. The cop and I were both puzzled - neither of us had ever heard of that happening before but he let me go with a laugh.

While I agree the “Commissioner” was bossy, I didn’t think it was horrible. Guess I’m used to worse. I don’t understand why the cop didn’t just answer her question. “The car is being impounded for, among other things, no registration and no proof of insurance. The driver has the paperwork.”

Because it was none of her business, as the cop stated. She had no reason/authority to be privy to the info. Besides, she already knew very well what the deal was having talked to her daughter. She was looking for the cops to look the other way because she thought she was a big shot. It wasn’t a discussion about why at all. That was just her attempt to move the discussion to a special favor. Then she got pissed off when she didn’t get what she wanted.

I don’t understand why the police officers continued to engage with her. The traffic stop was completed. The tickets were issued. Why didn’t they say,“You can ask the driver of the car to provide that information to you,” and go into their patrol car and drive away? If they were waiting for the tow truck, they could have gone into their car and waited there.

I bet they were kind of enjoying it knowing it was being recorded, seeing what would pop out of her mouth next. They had to wait for the tow truck to finish so might as well be entertained at the same time. :smiley:

It did make me nervous watching them all standing there with cars whizzing by though.

Good point @doschicos . They positioned themselves and her for the camera. She had no idea.

I agree with @brantly. Instead of saying “go ask the driver- he’s over 18” he could have answered her. No need to respond to jerky behavior with jerky behavior. IMO while the commissioner was puffing up her chest, he was adding to the power struggle. There was no need for that. He could have simply answered her, and if she then asked for more information at some later point he could have perhaps summarized and then said the remainder of the information was on the citation. SHe was a blowhard for sure, but they weren’t completely innocent in this exchange.

It’s very possible that the police are restricted from giving out that information. Turner was not the owner of the car, she was not related to the driver, and there were no charges against her daughter. IOW, she had no more standing in this situation than any passerby.

Why another legal adult is issued a citation is not the business of some other person. It’s a private matter at that point in time. Her only role in being there was just to give them a ride. Nothing more. She already knew what had transpired.

The officers were totally fine, IMO. They don’t need to kowtow to a difficult person.