<p>If Hillary loses Texas or Ohio (or both), should she continue in the race? Will she? What do people think? Is she going to be the Dem version of Huckabee?</p>
<p>The very reason she would be a fine president is that she is pragmatic as well as idealistic. She will do what is appropriate for her country, as well as her party.</p>
<p>I don’t think she’ll ever quit. It’s not in her vocabulary. They will take it to the convention and it will be 1968 all over again. </p>
<p>It’s going to be a wild ride, kids.</p>
<p>I don’t think she’ll quit if she loses both Texas and Ohio because she still has hopes of somehow getting Michigan and Florida delegates seated, and until that option is no longer an option (maybe not until Denver), she won’t concede.</p>
<p>This is not good for Senator Clinton:</p>
<p>[January</a> yields debt for HRC, cash for Obama - Kenneth P. Vogel and Jeanne Cummings - Politico.com](<a href=“http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8613.html]January”>January yields debt for HRC, cash for Obama - POLITICO)</p>
<p>^ Probably explains the 527 groups forming on her behalf. They can try to skirt the campaign finance rules and still put some ads together for her.</p>
<p>[Clinton</a> Backers Launch Ads As Obama Gets Union Support - WSJ.com](<a href=“http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120353609734380611.html?mod=googlenews_wsj]Clinton”>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120353609734380611.html?mod=googlenews_wsj)</p>
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<p>Interesting!</p>
<p>The WSJ article also says:</p>
<p>"The new Clinton group will run its first ad in Ohio in the next few days. The ad, called “Blueprint,” seeks to underscore Sen. Clinton’s strength on economic issues while reinforcing the Clinton campaign’s message that Sen. Obama is all talk.</p>
<p>“If speeches could create jobs, we couldn’t be facing a recession. But it takes more,” the ad begins. It says Sen. Clinton has helped approve legislation that seeks to save American jobs by ending tax breaks for companies that move jobs overseas."</p>
<p>Give me a break! This is clearly a violation.</p>
<p>“The very reason she would be a fine president is that she is pragmatic as well as idealistic. She will do what is appropriate for her country, as well as her party.”</p>
<p>I completely disagree. She would not make a good president. She can’t even manage a good campaign, which to me signifies lack of leadership. HRC has always done what is best for HRC. Carpetbagging sound familiar? </p>
<p>A bit OT but: [Make</a> That 11 for Obama - The Caucus - Politics - New York Times Blog](<a href=“Make That 11 for Obama - The New York Times”>Make That 11 for Obama - The New York Times)</p>
<p>On or about March 5th. If she loses in Texas and Ohio, she cannot pull enough numbers to win the nom, only enough to divide the convention. I think someone she respects will tell her that it’s over, she fought well, but it’s time to let go. There’s plenty of work to be done in the Senate, the people of NY will undoubtedly re-elect her when she’s up again, and her seniority in the Senate there will be a big help to the nation. </p>
<p>Obama has repeatedly made up wide losses in poll numbers to win primaries. I see nothing on the horizon that will stop him doing the same thing in Texas and Ohio where he is presently behind. If he wins by a (something like) 17 point margin, as he did in Michagan, Senator Clinton is finished whether she admits it or not. (He won HI by more than 50 points but it’s a state he grew up in so we’ll consider it an outlier.)</p>
<p>She needs to come with some huge negative thing about Obama quick; something so bad that everyone will thank for bringing it up and no one will fault her for going negative. It has to be something a lot more than Mrs. Obama not being “super-duper” proud of her country or something like that. And it has to come out real soon, like tonight.</p>
<p>I expect hher people come up with nothing or they would have leaked it already. Look for Hilary to make a lot of small points about Obama. I’m not expecting anything really new here.</p>
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<p>I wish! I think you were referring to Wisconsin?</p>
<p>Novelisto said: “I think someone she respects will tell her that it’s over”</p>
<p>My fear is that the only person she respects is Bill, and that she and Bill will decide that they should go after the superdelegates and ignore the popular vote. I’m not expecting her to give up gracefully.</p>
<p>Sorry…MI vs. WI…little upside down dyslexia there and I translated it into the full word.</p>
<p>This is a woman whose graciousness and courage in the face of some of the most public humiliation is exemplary. Cut the meanspiritedness and leave it out of the conversation.</p>
<p>She didn’t hit Obama hard enough. She needed to trip him up.</p>
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<p>That’s OK; I just wanted to make sure I didn’t miss some REAL breaking news today.</p>
<p>After watching the debate today and seeing the trend, I will NOT be surprised if Hillary quits the race after losing Texas and Ohio on March 4. She is a very smart woman, smart enough to see what is going on.</p>
<p>vicariousparent - what are your predictions if she wins one state and not the other?</p>
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<p>“public humiliation”? Public humiliation caused by whom? She is the one that insists on bringing herself and her family into the limelight! Had it not been for the “public humiliation” that she has been involved with over the years, she would be just another ex- first lady…
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<p>No one put a gun to her head and told her to run for President. If she can’t stand the heat, time for her (and her family) to get out of the kitchen.</p>