where do hard partiers end up in life?

<p>Depends…</p>

<p>Well…</p>

<p>President of the United States
CEO of Fortune 500 Companies
Esteemed Authors (most of them were serious partiers, just look at Fitzgerald)
Publishers
Agents
Musicians (just look at any musician)
Business owners</p>

<p>I recently had a chance to meet with a bunch of alumni from the 1970s and their stories would have terrified even the biggest frat boy or the most dedicated stoner. These people lived in the college equivalent of the wild west. Most of them were fairly successful though. I mean, just looking at stories about fraternity hazing in that decade makes you question where many of those people were going to end up, however we now have the majority of Fortune 500 executives being ex-greek members. </p>

<p>In my experience alone, some of the kids in high school that everybody questioned are now doing pretty well. Though I think it is different in college than in high school and I think the partying has to be defined. Generally the kid who sits in his dorm stoned out of his mind probably won’t be as successful as the one that is out partying and making strong relationships with a lot of people.</p>

<p>I know a guy that went to work at a manager in a top company and retired in his early 50s.</p>

<p>One also has to define ‘hard partier.’ A person can work hard throughout the week and then go bonkers on Friday night, do all his work on Saturday, and then party some more Saturday night. A person can also just party every single day of the week, barely scrape by in his classes, and end up graduating at the bottom of the ladder.</p>

<p>To my surprise, several of the hard partiers I knew in college ended up becoming ministers.</p>

<p>The last few have gotten the fancy title of POTUS.</p>

<p>Many “hard partiers” find that they can moderate or stop without too much trouble, and go on to great things. Others may have difficulty, however, and a few will end up developing a dependence on alcohol and other drugs that extends past the college years. This can be due to a variety of factors, many of which are beyond our control, such as having a genetic pre-disposition to substance abuse.</p>

<p>It occurs to me that your post may have been motivated by a concern that a “hard partier” in your life is letting the party get in the way of their ambitions. If so, there are several excellent resources to consult, both for the addict and their family/friends. I recommend the National Council on Alcoholism and Drug Depencence (NCADD) as a good start. [Facts</a> and Information - National Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence - NCADD](<a href=“http://www.ncadd.org/facts/index.html]Facts”>Commonly asked questions about drug & alcohol addiction)</p>

<p>Also, look into your local Al-Anon chapter.</p>

<p>The deeper message of Tucker Max’s book is that you should defy what society tells you to do and do what makes you happy. Best selling books and screen plays do not write themselves, despite it all, he is a very good writer and clearly works very hard. </p>

<p>His message is not to just “get drunk and womanize,” but a bit deeper.</p>

<p>I’m of the philosophy that if you do what you like, you will be successful at what you do, and the monetary benefits will follow.</p>

<p>Tucker Max > Kant</p>

<p>Just kidding, Tucker Max is pop pap Kant is King.</p>

<p>Well put, LogicWarrior. I’ve been out of college for 25 years and out of grad school for 20, and I’ve found this to be true in general. I’ve also found that most hard partiers tend to outgrow it somewhat by their mid-twenties. In fact, my personal definition of a substance abuser is someone in his or her 30s or beyond who still carry on like he or she was in college.</p>

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<p>And anyone that ate a carrot in 1877.</p>

<p>dead…</p>