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…Like gay being happy? Like 'shut up" being a compliment and ‘oh honey, bless your heart’ being a put down when said by a southern lady?</p>
<p>Meanings change, people/groups co-opt words and make them mean something different than the original. Why is it so threatening to have some of us refuse the word feminism when the meaning has shifted and changed over time?</p>
<p>Feminism is the freedom to do what I want to do - and it does not matter if I’m wearing my 5" Louboutins or a pair of Birks…</p>
<p>@cardinalfang. I think it’s more like my daughter said she was a vegetarian and a vegan told her she was not. To make a more apt analogy </p>
<p>“Doesn’t stop you from being a conservative.”
That’s right. I call myself a conservative. I do not call myself a feminist. I get to choose, whether one agrees or not.
I haven’t insulted feminists, although I think some of the behavior on this thread is worthy of that. </p>
<p>“A co worker once told me that the slave owner and the slave should be treated as equally moral.” Are you actually equating the refusal to identify as a feminist with slavery? Wow. And he’s that was an openly political post.</p>
<p>“Why would that stop a femimist from being a feminist?”
Heavens to Betsy, where did that come from? Who wants to stop anyone from being a feminist? Not me. Not anyone on this thread. I have the greatest respect for feminists, I’m just not one. I guess you selectively ignored my regard for feminists and focused on a post directed to someone insulting me. Some feminists are closed minded and judgmental. The rest of that post quoted that. </p>
<p>“But you are not the sole owner of the English language. Words have meanings.”
I didn’t use a word. That is the point. I declined to do so and it is bothering some posters a lot.</p>
<p>I like your dad, bajamm.
Mine died when I was 17. :(</p>
<p>Being for equal rights undetermined by gender or gender identification is not really a class or political issue, it seems like basic human rights that I’ve seen cuts across political, economic & religious lines.</p>
<p>( same with not treating the planet like we had another one to move to)</p>
<p>I don’t know how many more times zoosermom needs to say that she rejects people labeling her. I don’t think people can endow a huge litany of things like, “Therefore you must think A, B, and C because you reject the label.” And conversely, if you accept a certain label, it doesn’t mean, “Therefore you must be very closed -minded, judgmental, disrespectful and hateful.”</p>
<p>Though I agree that dstark is a crazy lunatic. 
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<p>D1 is doing very well at her job. She is smart and she works very hard (and very attractive). The fact she is a woman is helping her getting noticed by senior management because there are so few women her position. Whenever they want to do marketing video at her bank, she is always asked to be in it. Whenever they want someone to speak with analysts or recruiting on campus, she is asked to go. Recently she was asked to be in a committee to work with senior management on a project. Is she getting all that exposure because she is a woman? I think so. Is she going to turn it down because of it? No.</p>
<p>Bus, you and zoomom are my favorite posters. :D</p>
<p>"d conversely, if you accept a certain label, it doesn’t mean, “Therefore you must be very closed -minded, judgmental, disrespectful and hateful.”
I think I made clear that I was specifically referring to people who insult, condescend and misrepresent as has been done to me and poetgrl on this thread. As I also said, I honor and respect feminists because most are too busy living to be bothered to care what anyone else does, says or calls herself. </p>
<p>Old fort, I think that’s why Marissa Myers moved up so high on Google. Attractive female. But she is no Meg Whitman.</p>
<p>I don’t really care what people outside of my small circle label or don’t label themselves. </p>
<p>I just wanted to know what it was about the definition that made you reject it so vehemently. I understand what poet’s D is saying. I don’t agree, but I understand. </p>
<p>I just like to understand the thinking behind some people’s decisions whether I agree with them or not. I don’t think it’s attacking just to ask a question. </p>
<p>Carry on. </p>
<p>If I may say so, my D also got the brain. That’s my brag.</p>
<p>Romani, I believe that is what you wanted and I would answer when asked, as you did, with an open mind. Some posters are so bothered by what they must see as a personal attack that they aren’t interested in a different point of view, they are just looking to attack. If feminism isn’t about the freedom to be whatever woman each wants to be, then what is it? </p>
<p>I’m sure she does. Men who are tall and attractive have the same advantage in hiring and job situation. Basically we are all human.</p>
<p>Oldfort, please brag away! You’ve certainly earned it. And I hope this doesn’t offend you, but you are one of the posters I have learned the most from in my years here. </p>
<p>This is spot on:</p>
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<p>While this is not:
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<p>oldfort never said her daughter was successful BECAUSE she is attractive, and Marissa Mayer (not “Myers”) certainly wouldn’t be where she is without a track record of success. The fact that she is female and attractive is incidental to her career trajectory.</p>
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<a href=“http://www.biography.com/people/marissa-mayer-20902689#professional-success”>http://www.biography.com/people/marissa-mayer-20902689#professional-success</a></p>
<p>Actually zoosermom, I was referring to the certain label of “conservative”, not feminist, addressing another post.</p>
<p>DrGoogle, I always enjoy your posts. I have a feeling that yours, like mine, most of the time have an automatic
at the end of them.</p>
<p>Oldfort- both of our D1’s work in a predominately male world. My D1, a proudly proclaimed feminist, has to have a thick skin in the world she works. She does not get offended at every comment, but does call out her colleagues when necessary. She wears dresses, fell in love with her boyfriends gentlemanly habits ( she loved how he opened the car door for her on their first date). She was never a part of the hook up scene.</p>
<p>It is obvious that people have different definitions of feminism. I’m not really sure if it matters how you define it or even if you identify as a feminist, to me, as long as you believe in equal rights for all. </p>
<p>Sally, I know you like to be political correct, but I’m sure there was an article on cnbc that states something similar to what I posted.
While I have no doubt that Marissa Mayer has some brain but she has been buying some stupid companies in her business decision at Yahoo. For some people she is a zero at Yahoo except for the hype.</p>
<p>While Meg Whitman has been proven again and again that she has the good.</p>