Where'd you go , Bates College, U of Rochester, RPI

<p>Guys I have applied to those universities for the spring semester and I got bates acceptance before U of R and RPI and because I’m an international student I had to transfer my SEVIS (which is a document that’s related to my immigration status) to Bates (I should spend at least one semester if I want to transfer to another school) because I had given up on U of R.</p>

<p>I really like Bates College but university of Rochester more prestigious internationally and has a Med School that accepts only the international students who are graduates from their college.</p>

<p>There is only one way to transfer which is not good to my record which is deactivating my SEVIS.</p>

<p>Please guys what do you suggest, do I start at bates? Or deactivate my SEVIS and go to U of R?</p>

<p>Thanks in advance</p>

<p>Bates has an excellent reputation with US medical schools and a high rate of med. school admission. That said, admission to a US medical school is more challenging for international students, so if you’re thinking of returning home you’ll want to consider the school’s reputation in your home country. You might want to check this out-it’s Bates’ early admit program to the Tufts MS.
[Maine</a> Track Professional School Affiliations | Career Development Center | Bates College](<a href=“http://www.bates.edu/career/students/advanced-studies-graduate-and-professional-school-advising/health-professions-advising/maine-track-professional-school-affiliations/]Maine”>http://www.bates.edu/career/students/advanced-studies-graduate-and-professional-school-advising/health-professions-advising/maine-track-professional-school-affiliations/)</p>

<p>Sue22 </p>

<p>This is the first I heard of this program , does it also need MCAT score ? </p>

<p>This is reassuring , thank you so much</p>

<p>^Be sure to pay attention to the details:</p>

<p>[Maine</a> Track Application Process | Tufts University School of Medicine MD Programs](<a href=“http://md.tufts.edu/Admissions/MD-Maine-Track-Admissions]Maine”>http://md.tufts.edu/Admissions/MD-Maine-Track-Admissions)</p>

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<p>Are you interested in rural medicine?</p>

<p>The eligibility requirements don’t mention US citizenship, but that’s something that should be asked specifically to assure compliance.</p>

<p>No it doesn’t require the MCAT, but as entomom pointed out you should check into the details. As a Bates student you’d fulfill the “Maine” part of the requirements but admission is not guaranteed and I don’t know whether international students are given the same preference as US students. </p>

<p>One of the advantages of this program is that you’d know in your sophomore year whether you’d been accepted. You may want to contact the med. school advisor at Bates to ask your questions and inquire specifically as the admit rates and sources of support for international students.</p>

<p>In any case, if you’re looking at spring admission I doubt you have time to get your paperwork together for a different school in the two weeks before classes start.</p>

<p>I’m sorry, I thought I have edited my post. </p>

<p>what is rural medicine? will I get M.D degree ? </p>

<p>and if I don’t want rural medicine , will I be eligible to apply to Maine Track ?</p>

<p>Rural medicine means practicing medicine in the country. It sounds like this program is designed to attract more doctors to Maine, and in particular the less populated parts of the state.</p>

<p>when I told Rochester counselor about my situation, he offered me a deferred acceptance for the Fall 2013, and he also say that he will transfer all of my credits at Bates if I want to transfer. However , I really like Bates and I want your opinion on where would you go ?</p>

<p>Rural medicine is more than just practicing medicine “in the country”. It means practicing primary care medicine (usually family practice or general internal medicine) in regions where doctors are scare and the local physician may be called upon to serve as a resource in multiple disciplines–including mental health & addiction, chronic illness management, geriatrics, obstetrics and occasionally dentistry. </p>

<p>(We have a top ranked rural medicine program at the med school D1 attends and all students are required to do a 8 week full time summer immersion experience in rural medicine at the end of their first year.)</p>

<p>Rural medicine physicians will have an MD, plus they will do their rural medical residency (2 years) in a rural healthcare clinic. (In fact, for the Maine track, they will do all their 3rd and 4th year clerkships in rural Maine medical clinics.)</p>

<p>As a non-resident (of both Maine* and the US) who is not interested in practicing rural medicine in Maine, your chances of gaining acceptance to the program will be quite poor.</p>

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<li>Simply attending college in Maine will not get you state residency status.</li>
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<p>WayOutWestMom-</p>

<p>You’re right. My explanation of the term “rural medicine” was simplistic.</p>

<p>As we don’t really know what the applicant wants to do, I didn’t want to make assumptions about where he would choose to practice medicine. I know plenty of non-Americans who stayed in Maine after attending college there.</p>

<p>The Tufts site has a lot of information, including,
“Maine Track Program: Sophomores at Bates College, Bowdoin College, Colby College and all University of Maine campuses are eligible to apply to this program. Students from Maine colleges are only eligible for the Maine Track Program.”</p>

<p>and </p>

<p>“International applicants are eligible to apply to TUSM, but should be advised that we admit very few and give strong preference to US citizens and permanent residents. We also give strong preference to applicants who have (or will have by the time of matriculation) completed their undergraduate work at a US college or university. The international students admitted to TUSM are usually students who have earned Bachelor’s degrees in the United States.”</p>

<p>Like I said, the OP needs to do more research.</p>

<p>D2 graduated from UR this spring and will be applying there for med school next cycle. </p>

<p>(BTW, one of BFFs from high school just graduated from Bates…)</p>

<p>UR is great school, but the pre med competition there is intense! Approx. 35-40% of incoming freshman identify as “pre-meds” so there is lots of pressure to do well in Honors Bio and OChem. </p>

<p>Pre meds are required to take calc-based physics plus 2 semesters of calculus.</p>

<p>Lots of excellent research opportunities for the asking, but it can be tough to get a volunteer position at Strong Hospital. (Too many pre meds vying for a limited number of volunteer positions.) </p>

<p>Upstate NY has the same cold, gray, snowy weather that Maine does. (But with much less nearby skiing.)</p>

<p>DS has both UR and Bates on his list tho’ he won’t be pre-med. Rochester NY or Lewiston ME. Either way be prepared to buy a good set of boots and a warm winter jacket. Bates’ pre-med cohort is considerably smaller than UR’s. Don’t know if that’s a good or a bad thing.</p>

<p>OP-- according the published class profiles, in the past 10 years only 1 international non-permanent resident has matriculated into URMC. </p>

<p>And 25% of the slots at URMC for each entering MS1 class are reserved for “special programs”. (REMS, Early Assurance,MSTP and the Bryn Mawr, Johns Hopkins or Associated Medical Schools of New York Post-Baccalaureate Programs for career changers.)</p>

<p>I called the admission director of URMC and she said that there are two international medical students at UR one is Chinese and has been accepted for the BS/MD and the other has graduated from UR and now attending URMC</p>

<p>Not all BS/MD students end up matriculating into the med school, ReDevil. About 1 in 4 drop out of the program before completing the undergrad portion. (D1 had several close friends in the REMS program. Each year 10 students are accepted into REMS, at the end of the 4 undergrad years, only 6-7 actually matriculate into URMC.) No guarantee the current REMS student will stick.</p>

<p>(D2’s freshman roomie was a Chinese student who dropped out of the program after the first semester of freshman year to study econ.)</p>

<p>So there is one international student currently attending URMC (which I knew because he was in most of D2’s classes for the last 4 years…and he is the first international to matriculate into UMRC in that past 10 years. Made a big deal out of it at departmental commencement.) and one there is another in the pipeline (REMS program)–but the second international is not yet a matriculant at the med school.</p>

<p>So where’s the inaccuracy in my previous post?</p>

<p>I didn’t say your post was inaccurate :slight_smile: I was adding more info about the school.</p>

<p>WayOutWestMom </p>

<p>What do you think of Bates ?</p>

<p>The only thing I know about Bates is that D2’s friend liked it there, but Bates is very small school. She was spring admit who did her first semester abroad in Provence as part of Bates’ language program. She felt she had a tougher time making friends once she arrived on campus than kids who were fall admits.</p>

<p>Also getting to & from anywhere and campus can be a challenge since the campus isn’t near a major airport. Plus lots of flight cancellations during the winter storms. (Rochester’s airport has more than its share of flight cancellations due to snow too.)</p>

<p>The friend was a French major so I have no info at all about the math or science programs.</p>