which is easier to get into, CALS at Cornell or CAS at NYU?

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<p>I wish to study pre-med, and both schools have great pre-med programs.
I’m also applying Early Decision to NYU. Do you think my chances (whatever my scores are) would be higher if I apply to the CAS at NYU (with or without Early Decision) or to the CALS at Cornell?</p>

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<p>The 25th-75th percentile SAT range at Cornell CALS is 1310-1510. The overall at NYU is 1210-1410, but I am not sure about NYU CALS specifically. Cornell might be about 100 SAT points higher than NYU. I don’t think NYU has any colleges within it that would have lower SATs than it’s CALS.</p>

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<p>The 25th-75th percentile SAT range at Cornell CALS is 1310-1510</p>

<p>Where did you get that information? Does Cornell post that 25/75% school by school?</p>

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<p><a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000176.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000176.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000177.pdf[/url]”>http://dpb.cornell.edu/documents/1000177.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>how can i get this information for NYU?</p>

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<p>NYU has a higher admit rate. Cornell’s CAS has the lowest admit rate within the university.</p>

<p>Go figure.</p>

<p>But apply early to the one which YOU like better…honestly, there’s a wide difference between NYC and Ithaca - where would you rather be? I think that kinda decides it for you</p>

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<p>I’m not applying to CAS at cornell, i’m applying to CALS, the agriculture and life sciences school…is it that hard to see the L in there?
:-0
I appreciate the help though…</p>

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<p>NYU – not even close</p>

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<p>CALS Cornell vs Stern NYU is a better comparison</p>

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<p>AEM within CALS will have different SAT figures. As is Wharton at Penn but not Stern, it is a haven for recruited athletes, but also has some of the strongest applicants. Also the SAT’s are already higher than those from 2006.</p>

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<p>Sorry, you typed CALS and I read CAS. My mistake. The SAT range at Cornell Agriculture and Life Sciences is 1230-1430. So, Cornell CALS is still higher than NYU overall. If you are a NY State resident, then go to Cornell CALS. Low tuition for NYS residents.</p>

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<p>give me the ACT range, huh?</p>

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<p>“…it is a haven for recruited athletes”</p>

<p>how do you know this? or is this just one of the common assumptions from cornell students? b/c if you go on the cornell big red website, you can see what colleges the athletes belong to. and, i have to tell you that its pretty evenly split between endowed vs. contract colleges.</p>

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<p>Look at the Cornell athletics media guide. I only looked at the hockey players but most of them were AEM, sociology, or hotel (in fact, I’d say over half of them were in AEM). The ones in CAS were practically all sociology majors lol</p>

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<p>It’s generally true across all sports that many more athletes in CALS and statutory colleges, as well as Hotel. Having the statutory colleges affects the AI, lowering the standard deviation by which athletes are admissable, including admission to Arts and Engineering. Many athletes of course are well within the higher ranges on gpa and boards, including valedictorians, etc., but there is room for those who are not. Same is true at all Ivies, but only pointing out Wharton and AEM are more heavily populated by athletes than one not knowledgeable might realize.</p>

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<p>Cornell CALS ACT range 27-31.</p>

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<p>howbout the ACT range for NYU’s CAS?
I have a 28 ACT score</p>

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<p>“Look at the Cornell athletics media guide. I only looked at the hockey players but most of them were AEM…”</p>

<p>Okay, I did some research (but only for some of the big/successful teams!)</p>

<p>Hockey:
-14 athletes enrolled in contract colleges v. 11 in endowed.</p>

<p>Track and Field: (Men)
-53 athletes enrolled in endowed colleges v. 51 in contract.</p>

<p>Lacrosse:
-22 athletes in contract v. 22 in endowed.</p>

<p>Baseball:
-14 in endowed v. 7 in contract.</p>

<p>*Of course, not everyone listed their college in their profile on the big red website, but the overwhelmingly majority of the teams I listed did. And while many of those in CALS were in the AEM major, a good number were in Bio and Society/Environmental Engineering.</p>

<p>The notion that most of the athletes are in contract colleges is obviously wrong (look on the big red profile at the rosters). But what I can’t come to terms with is why so many people use this false notion to suggest that the contract colleges are somewhat worse or “easier” than the endowed colleges.</p>

<p>Now I don’t feel that anyone on this thread is doing this (and some even went as far to point out other schools like Hotel to be in this “picture” as well) purposefully, but thats the perception!</p>

<p>And to all the future Cornell applicants (I know I can write a lot lol):
-Forget the false notions on most athletes belongs to contract colleges! Look instead at the highest average starting salaries for the undergraduate colleges at Cornell! (Engineering is 1st, ILR is 2nd…)</p>

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<p>My analysis is by major, not by college. Redcrimblue said that AEM is a haven for athletes. That is absolutely true. I don’t care if AEM is in CAS, CALS, or whatever. Recruited athletes tend to go into easier majors (sociology, AEM, hotel, communications). A few of those happen to be in contract colleges.</p>

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<p>well prove it. cite something. that’s all i’m saying. because now all this looks like is the common perception of some majors/colleges.</p>