Hi all,
I am a qualified Native American student from California who will be applying to college in the fall. I would like to apply early to one of the Ivies, and major in Business. I have competitive stats and ECs, i was just wondering if one of the colleges would be better than the others. Thanks for the input!
Only a few of the Ivy League schools offer an undergraduate business major.
Dartmouth
If you are looking at true Ivy league schools, then I believe only the University of Pennsylvania offers Business as a course of study for undergraduate students. If you want to study something like Economics, though, then pretty much any of the schools would be an option.
@college_query In addition to the Wharton school at UPenn, the Dyson School at Cornell also offers an undergraduate business program. As noted above, the other Ivys offer economics.
However, economics and business are different courses of study. Economics is a liberal arts path and is very theoretical at the higher levels. Undergraduate business programs have a core curriculum in business disciplines such as accounting, finance, IT, management (to name but a few) and then students major in one of those disciplines. If the OP is choosing between business and economics he/she should look online at the courses required for each major and see if one path is more interesting to him/her than the other.
And to the OP, I suggest you expand your search beyond the Ivy Leagues. There are many wonderful colleges and universities out there.
Cornell has the hotel school
@ClarinetDad16 Cornell also has the Dyson school which offers a number of traditional business majors such as accounting, finance, marketing, business analytics, entrepreneurship. The school offers a BS in Applied Economics and Managements. It also offers some less common majors such as agribusiness management, food business management. The school is widely respected. My S works at a Big 4 firm in NYC and a number of graduates of Dyson are there. This is entirely different from Cornell’s School of Hotel Administration which does have some business coursework in the curriculum – but it is really geared towards people interested in the hospitality industry.
https://dyson.cornell.edu/undergraduate/degree-requirements
At Cornell, both the applied economics and management major and the hotel and restaurant administration major are AACSB accredited.
@happy1 - it seems the highly respected Cornell Hotel school is a business curriculum. I looked at the course work.
If the OP is interested in working in management anywhere across the spectrum of hospitality, tourism, casino, etc. that this is an excellent program.
@ClarinetDad16 I concur tbat the hotel school is an excellent option if the OP is interested in the hospitality industry. I did want the OP to also know that more traditional business majors can be found in Dyson.
If you’re looking for an alumni network within the Native American community, Dartmouth might be a good bet. If you’re looking for a pure business degree, rather than economics, (i.e., something more pre-professional), you may be doing yourself a disservice to be limiting your search to ivies.
i am not limited to a business degree, i am also open to other fields (i.e. economics). I know Dartmouth has active Native American recruitment, i just don’t know what the average stats are. that said, i was wondering if i should apply to schools with lower percentage son native americans, maybe getting in there would be a bit easier? thanks for the help
You might also want to look at Cornell’s AIP: https://aip.cornell.edu/ Also, they have a Native American Program House: https://living.sas.cornell.edu/live/wheretolive/programhouses/Akwekon.cfm
That information is easy to find.
Google for [college name] + “average SAT” + “average GPA”.
Or, Google for [college name] + “Common Data Set” … then download and open the Common Data Set file and go to section C (“First Time, First-Year (Freshman) Admission”). Section B of the same file shows enrollment break-downs by race/ethnicity.
I don’t know if Dartmouth has the same thing, but Harvard has a page somewhere in which average SAT is given for students of various ethnicities. Native American accepted students had average SATs of about ~2000 - while this suggests a significant admissions advantage, keep in mind that these students may receive that advantage because of very difficult socioeconomic backgrounds. If your family is wealthier/middle-class, your ethnicity will still be a “hook,” but it may not be quite that big an advantage.
Thank you for your insight tk21769, I understand the data for incoming freshmen, I was interested in academic stats by ethnic background being accepted into University
Usualhopeful, do you know where that dataset is located?
Stanford isn’t an Ivy, but they seem to have an active Native American community, especially if you’re from the Pacfic Northwest/West in general.
@str8outtafolsom I couldn’t find the same page, but I did find a different one with similar data (I believe from a different year). Here: http://features.thecrimson.com/2015/freshman-survey/makeup-narrative/
It is much higher than I remembered (2147), which is still lower than average, but really doesn’t suggest a huge boost.
thank you @usualhopeful it seems as if those numbers correspond to african-americans, latinos but I’m sure
Native American scores can’t be far off! thank you!