Which major are the top 25 LACs best known for?

<p>I know that LACs tend to have a stronger focus on one subject more than the other; therefore, I would like some insight to which college has a strong focus on which subject. </p>

<p>[[[These are the colleges that CC lists]]]
Amherst College Barnard College Bates College Bowdoin College Bryn Mawr College Carleton College Claremont McKenna College Colby College Colgate University Davidson College Grinnell College Hamilton College Harvey Mudd College Haverford College Kenyon College Macalester College Middlebury College Mount Holyoke College Oberlin College Pomona College Reed College Smith College Swarthmore Trinity College (Connecticut) Vassar College Washington & Lee University Wellesley College Wesleyan University Whitman College Williams College</p>

<p>Amherst College - English
Williams College - History of Art, Mathematics
Bryn Mawr College - Classics
Haverford College - Biology, Chemistry
Middlebury College - Languages (Romance, East Asian, Arabic, Russian)
Smith College - Engineering
Harvey Mudd College - Engineering
Swarthmore - Engineering</p>

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<p>With a few exceptions (Harvey Mudd for engineering, Midd for languages), LACs typically don’t strive to excel in just one field. That goes against their entire educational philosophy.</p>

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<p>I agree that most LACs aren’t known for one single department, but Wesleyan is definitely known for film studies as well as ethnomusicology (which is actually a grad program but also exists as a concentration for the undergrad music major). I agree with engineering for Smith and languages for Middlebury.</p>

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<p>Philosophy, Geology, Economics, Chemistry, Physics are depts at Colgate that either have a particularly well-regarded faculty or have a high percentage of majors go on for a PhD on a relative basis in comparison to other schools.</p>

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<p>“Liberal arts colleges cannot offer the breadth of courses provided by the large universities. As a result, liberal arts colleges try to create a niche for themselves. For instance, a college may place its emphasis on its humanities departments, whose professors are all well-known published authors and international presenters in their areas of expertise. A college may highlight its science departments by providing state-of-the-art facilities where undergraduates conduct research side by side with top-notch professors and copublish their findings in the most prestigious scientific journals in the country.”
-Peterson’s Four-Year Colleges</p>

<p>So, teenage_cliche, LACs <em>do</em> try to excel in a certain field; that is why I am asking this question.</p>

<p>Hmm
 I see that Haverford excels in biology and chemistry. If I am looking into pre-med, should I be looking at schools that excel in biology?</p>

<p>LACs typically don’t have “stronger foci” on one subject more than others; sometimes they have departments that are well-known and very popular majors (sometimes because they are stronger than others) but in general you could go to any one of these LACs and major in a liberal arts discipline and get a very good education. Like teenage_cliche said, specializing in one major or area goes against the entire philosophy of liberal arts education.</p>

<p>Again, some schools are known for very good departments in some areas – like Middlebury’s language programs, Smith’s engineering program, and Bryn Mawr’s classics department. But it is true that Middlebury “focuses” on languages more than anything else, or that Swarthmore focuses more on engineering, or that Bryn Mawr focuses more on classics? No.</p>

<p>The quote that you mentioned doesn’t prove that they try to excel somewhere; it says that they try to create a “niche” for themselves. First of all, this is just Peterson’s opinion – LACs already have distinguishing factors that make them more appealing than large universities (smaller classes, more intimacy with professors, a holistic education) so they don’t need a “niche” to attract students. Most top students would select Amherst or Williams over their large flagship university even without the breadth of classes. Second of all, “emphasizing” and “highlighting” aren’t the same as a particular focus. A focus in this sense suggests the school is putting the majority of its energy into one thing, and that’s not true for most LACs, as the entire purpose is emphasizing liberal arts education. They “emphasize” certain things for the purposes of marketing – “Look at our commitment to women in engineering” for Smith, or “we have a great language program” for Middlebury. That’s not the same thing as a focus on one subject.</p>

<p>To answer your question bluntly, no, you shouldn’t be looking just at schools that excel in biology. First of all, pre-med courses are more than just biology (you also have to take chemistry, mathematics, psychology, and English courses). Second of all, you can major in anything and be a pre-med major. Typically to satisfy pre-med requirements only two biology classes are required, and students are usually advised to take a few upper-level courses as well. Are you really going to select your undergraduate college based on 4 classes?</p>

<p>Third of all, a majority of students change their major and career plans when they reach college. And fourth of all, biology is biology. The biology departments at top LACs are going to be very similar to each other; they are going to offer similar classes (with maybe the exception of a few electives) and by their nature as top LACs they are going to have great professors.</p>

<p>IF you are pre-med, what you really need to look at are medical school admissions success rates (where are students going after school?) as well as more holistic factors such as location and appeal of the school.</p>

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<p>Thanks juillet. That was very helpful.</p>

<p>Here’s a collection of research I am gathering:</p>

<p>Reed-
From 1995 through 2008, of applicants with a 3.1 science GPA or better and at least 28 on the Medical College Admission Test (MCAT), 108 out of 128 applicants were successful.
84% acceptance (108/128)
[REED</a> COLLEGE MEDICAL SCHOOL ACCEPTANCE](<a href=“http://web.reed.edu/ir/medschool.html]REED”>Medical School Acceptance Rate - Institutional Research - Reed College)</p>

<p>Carleton-
‘70% of Carleton alumni who apply to medical school and maintained a grade point average of 3.0 or higher while at Carleton are accepted; the national acceptance rate is 40%.’
10% of the 1997 entering cohort at the University of Minnesota Medical School was comprised of Carleton alumni.
[Carleton</a> College: Admissions](<a href=“http://apps.carleton.edu/admissions/beyond/]Carleton”>http://apps.carleton.edu/admissions/beyond/)</p>

<p>Bowdoin-
The acceptance rate of those who applied through Bowdoin to enter medical school in 2001-2008 has averaged 86%. All but two candidates who applied to enter veterinary medicine, dental medicine, nursing, nutrition, occupational therapy, pharmacy, physician assistant, public health and sports nutrition programs during the same time frame gained admission.
<a href=“Health Professions Advising | Bowdoin College”>Health Professions Advising | Bowdoin College;

<p>I have a feeling that these will all be similar with a 70%+ admissions rate. If anyone has more information–please post it!</p>

<p>Now that I look at it
 I think that I will just look into the atmosphere of each of these colleges. I feel that it all comes down to whether or not I will enjoy the school.</p>

<p>It really does – if you enjoy the atmosphere and get along with your peers and professors, you will be much more motivated to succeed. And the schools that you are looking at are top liberal arts colleges; they are all going to have high rates of acceptance to medical school. You really can’t go wrong with Reed, Carleton, and Bowdoin :D</p>

<p>Also, this may seem off-topic, but consider other careers within the medical field than just being a physician and find out everything you can. I wanted to go pre-med in undergrad but got turned off by the large amount of time and money that it takes to get there, so I decided (after a while) to turn to public health instead, and I’m earning my Ph.D in public health. HOWEVER, I later found out about this position called a physician’s assistant – who does most of the basic functions a physician does, except that they only require a master’s degree and experience in healthcare (like nursing or EMT) for a few years first. I wish I had known about that in undergrad!</p>

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<p>Really? I looked up their course catalog and it seems that their entire engineering department only offers a total of 35 or so actual engineering classes. Doesn’t seem like a lot of depth.</p>

<p>Swarthmore is one of the few liberal arts schools with an engineering program. I’ve heard that Swarthmore engineering is quite respected by graduate schools. If you want to become an engineer and go to Swarthmore, you pretty much have to go to grad school.</p>

<p>Yep :slight_smile:
Well, I am not necessarily looking at Reed, but I just looked up some of CCs top LACs for stats.</p>

<p>And Reed isn’t even in the top 50 LACs according to USNWR. Which just goes to show how lame USNWR is
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<p>Reed chooses not to be included in the rankings.</p>

<p>If you ranked by 75th percentile composite (M&CR) SAT scores, Reed would be about #12 among LACs. If you ranked by overall “Ph.D. production”, it would be #3.</p>

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