Which state to move to for the purpose of GETTING IN to medical school as "in state"? Arkansas?

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<p>Arkansas medical school lets their residents CALL THE SCHOOL for an interview after they SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION. Like, come on! You can pretty much guarantee yourself an interview if you are an ark resident and you have a decent gpa (you know, don’t have like a 2.3 gpa, if you have anything above a 3.4+, I bet you’re pretty much good). </p>

<p>And FIFTY PERCENT OF IN STATE INTERVIEWIES MATRICULATE. Their acceptance rate is 50%. So if you move to arkansas and live there for 6 months, and then apply, you have a 50% chance of getting into their medical school.</p>

<p>I also have MSAR online and I calculated the odds of getting into medical schools as an instater from various states. I used their matriculant rate vs applicant rate and put it into an equation. For example, if there are two schools in a state, and one of them accepts 20% of the IS applicants, and the other one accepts 14%, then here’s how we calculate:
1-(1-0.2)*(1-0.14)= 0.312. SO your total % chance of getting accepted into a medical school in that state is 31.2%. </p>

<p>Here are the states with the best acceptance rates according to my equation based on MATRICULANT data from MSAR online: (So I bet the acceptance rate is much higher since the matriculant rate is so high) This is for in state students.
West Virginia: 55% (of matriculating at a med school in their state if you apply)
Alabama: 49.6%
Arkansas: 50% from those who interviewed, and residents can call to schedule interview.
South Carolina: 42.3%
Kentucky: 42%
Vermont: 41%
Ohio: 40%
Oklahoma: 40%
North Dakota: 39%
Indiana: 38%
Louisiana: 38%</p>

<p>And of course, I was also curious about Texas, and surprisingly, it is 34% chance. </p>

<p>However, I have not researched about residency requirements of any of these states besides Arkansas. </p>

<p>So, in your opinion, which state would it be best to move to for the purpose of gaining admissions to medical school? TUITION DOES NOT MATTER. I am only looking for admission purposes! I know a lot of you say “texas” because “low tuition”, but to me tuition doesn’t matter, I want the highest chance of getting into medical school. The highest calculated is obviously west virginia, but who can beat that automatic interview to all arkansas residents? (idk if west virginia does auto interviews to residents or not)</p>

<p>So, should I move to arkansas for medical school admissions? </p>

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<p>Pay $30 and get full access to US News grad school website. </p>

<p>It includes data about the number of instate applicants, in state interviews granted and in state students accepted.</p>

<p>With those numbers it’s pretty easy to calculate which states most strongly favor instate applicants and your raw chances of admission.</p>

<p>Also look at FACTS Table #1:</p>

<p><a href=“https://www.aamc.org/download/321442/data/2013factstable1.pdf”>https://www.aamc.org/download/321442/data/2013factstable1.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>If you move to gain state residency, realize it will require a 2-5 year time period before you’re considered a state resident. You will need to entirely self-supporting during that period and have the requisite documentation. (Typically includes: state tax returns, federal tax returns, driver’s license, voter’s registration, car registration with proof of instate insurance, local bank account, signed lease agreement or home purchase agreement with your name on it, utility bills in your name, local medical insurance.)</p>

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<p>Also please understand that meeting or exceeding a state’s “average” stats is not a guarantee you’ll get accepted. (Consider D1’s ex who had a 3.95 GPA/sGPA and 40 MCAT who was rejected three times by the state med school despite the school’s rather mediocre stats.)</p>

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<p>Didn’t you previously post that your family will not help you with medical school costs? Will they subsidize your move to Arkansas? or will you be able to afford the move without their help–which you would actually have to do to establish that you are self supporting to gain residency there? Also, how will you be able to sign a lease, etc–do you have established credit? And many lessors require the lessee to be at least 21; I know we had to co-sign a lease for one of my sons because of his age, even though he had employment that met the financial parameters required for the lease.</p>

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<p>If you really, really want the state that has the best odds–look at Puerto Rico. There are 4 fully LCME accredited medical schools in PR. All of them have a very strong resident bias. All of them have lower than the typical main land admission stats.</p>

<p>But (and you knew there would one, didn’t you)–all of them require fluency in Spanish and a minimum of 2 full years of conversational Spanish at the college level. Additionally, all students are required to take a full additional year of medical Spanish during med school. (Why? Because you’ll be working with Spanish speaking patients. Also at 2 schools, some of the instruction will be in Spanish.)</p>

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<p>ECU accepts ONLY in-state. UNC caps OOS to no more than 18%. And after MS1 OOS can be re-classified as in-state if you follow the guidelines to residency. Duke and WF give preference to NC residents, a bump. Although the actual numbers of med schools in TX improves one’s odds.</p>

<p>Kat</p>

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<p>Thank you, I will subscribe to US news.
But what about arkansas? It only requires 6 months before you become resident. I will be able to move on my own without my parents help. </p>

<p>Also, parents won’t be supporting me when I am in med school, and won’t be signing any leases. Please tell me, how do students survive in that case who are under 21? Without a cosigner? I am sure they don’t delay their medical school starting year just because of that little factor of having no credit or cosigner. I am sure there are plenty of ways, like renting out a room in a house from someone who owns the house. Etc. You know. </p>

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<p>No, you have to demonstrate that you are living in AL AND supporting yourself for at least 6 months BEFORE you apply to med school in order to meet residency requirements for Alabama.</p>

<p>(IOW, if you move to AL in June 2015, you won’t be considered a resident until Jan 2016. You must have met the minimum residency requirement BEFORE you can claim AL residency on your application.)</p>

<p>Also realize that the med school has the right to question your motives for relocating and can deny your residency petition. </p>

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<p>Oops! Meant Arkansas. not Alabama.</p>

<p>As for the credit thing. If you don’t have established credit and no cosigner, you will often be asked to put down a larger than normal security deposit. (First and last month’s rent & damage deposit is the typical requirement even for renters with good credit.)</p>

<p>Without established credit, utilities will require security deposits too–usually $75-150 (enough to cover 3-4 months of service).</p>

<p>Should you choose to live in the grad dorms for med school, you will still need to pony up a deposit to hold the room for you before school starts.</p>

<p>You will need at least 1-2 months living expenses in savings when you start med school. Actually more than that since you’ll need to buy textbooks.</p>

<p>Excess med school loans (those not used to cover tuition) aren’t disbursed until about a month or 6 weeks after classes have begun. (Exact disbursement dates vary according to school policy.)</p>

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<p>@wayoutwestmom UNM’s email is: <a href=“mailto:apply@unm.ed”>apply@unm.ed</a> or <a href=“mailto:apply@unm.edu”>apply@unm.edu</a>?</p>

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<p>ATTN: Streampaw</p>

<p>From the AK residency application form:</p>

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<p>WowMom, As a past resident of AK (Alaska), I think you meant AR above :slight_smile: .</p>

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<p>Yes, this is what I mean. To move to arkansas right after graduation, and take two gap years, applying to med school after one of those gap years. And I will probably volunteer there too. </p>

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<p>That might work. You need to establish roots in the state in order to gain consideration for med school admission.</p>

<p>Good luck with your move!</p>

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<p>If tuition does not matter, why moving?</p>

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<p>I think the OP is more concerned about getting into a med school (although 6 months ago the strategy was to go for a MD/PhD in order to get her med school funded).</p>

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<p>I think Kristin’s given the best advice so far on her other thread: Millionaire Matchmaker really does sound like the best fit for stream paw. Definitely gives the best opportunity to live a high income lifestyle with lots of kids and minimal work hours.</p>

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<p>OK, I would stay in a dream land then, end of story.</p>

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<p>Hi, OP !!
Have you decided if you are relocating to Arkansas or Texas yet?</p>

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<p>Having done residency in Arkansas…it’s really a pretty nice place. Little Rock and Northwest Arkansas (where Walmart is headquartered) are nice places to live. The rest of the state, however…well the stereotypes may be exaggerated, but there’s some truth in there too.</p>

<p>However…the stats are at least a little bit deceiving and it’s not so much a matter of just moving to the state, establishing residency (however hard or not that may be) and applying. Unless things have changed recently, Arkansas actually has quotas for the various geographical areas of the state and you’re competing with students from your region. So being a student from Little Rock, it’s much harder to get into UAMS (University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences), than it is if you are from say…Mountain Home, Paragould, or Crossett. But trust me…you don’t want to be from those places if you’re carpetbagging and in your early 20’s with a college degree. </p>

<p>The idea behind this setup is that research has shown that students from small towns are much more likely to return to small towns after their training. Getting those students to matriculate serves the institution’s mission to provide care to all of the state.</p>

<p>What that ultimately means is that some areas have much higher rates of acceptance than the 50% you’ve identified, and others much lower. There are some minimum standards of course, so it’s not just anybody off the street, but I definitely heard some interesting stories about the acceptance policies while I was down South.</p>

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<p>The stats are deceiving. The carpetbaggers might make up a larger part of that half that is not accepted LOL. Yes, a lot of states have some quotas and preferences. My DH’s childhood state is hardly considered back woods at all. High National merit cutoff, great schools. But the area where he lived is considered deprived, and two students are guaranteed admissions to the medical school from that county. That’s just the one county, and just something I happen to know, and you can’t find this info anywhere. </p>

<p>There are also some “good ol’ boy” admissions in the picture too, and you ain’t likely to be one o’ 'em when you’re a carpetbagger.</p>