Transfer used to be guaranteed in WA, but the program became too popular and had to be made competitive (maybe 5 years ago or so?). It’s still pretty common, though.
Which states have good community college -> state university (including flagship) transfer pathways?
The link in post #2 gives incomplete information for articulation agreements for NYS public colleges. NYS residents who transfer from a NYS community college to a 4-year [SUNY[/url] with an AS or AA degree have [url=<a href=“https://www.suny.edu/sunypp/documents.cfm?doc_id=345%5Dguaranteed”>https://www.suny.edu/sunypp/documents.cfm?doc_id=345]guaranteed admission](https://www.suny.edu/attend/get-started/transfer-students/suny-transfer-policies/) to a 4-year SUNY. That doesn’t mean a student is promised a specific SUNY. It’s important to check transfer requirements and limitations before applying because some campuses have restricted majors.
In-state tuition rates are very reasonable. Tuition for NYS community colleges is roughly $4k/year and for the 4-year schools it’s ~$8k/year. Many students start off by commuting to a local community college then transfer to a 4-year SUNY. Others commute to a 4-year campus from the beginning. Some work only summers and others work both during the summer and part-time during the year. Most take out some of the federal student loans. Some students decide to go across state to dorm at a SUNY that has a specific major (such as environmental studies) or is more well known (Binghamton, Stony Brook…) That’s much more expensive (~$20k/year). We can’t afford that because our current income just qualifies us for a few hundred dollars of federal and state grants, but I know families who qualify for full Pell and full TAP (our state tuition grant) who make up the other ~$10k with the federal student loan, student work earnings, plus a couple thousand from mom and/or dad. It’s tight, but they can make it.
I disagree about Michigan and going to UofM or Michigan State from CC…it CAN be done, but there is no articulation agreement or guarantee and the student must always check each semester to see if the CC class will be excepted by the flagships for credit. It’s all available on the web but it isn’t as ‘easy’ as other states. There are articulation agreements with the directional state universities plus Grand Valley. I’m sure students do it every year, but I think the OP was looking for a more proscribed or automatic path.
Indiana’s is horrible. Our state wide community college has approx, 100,000 students and I think does a decent job with some 2 year degrees, training, etc but the ability to transfer that into a 4 year college is very iffy. I would never recommend this route to a student who knows they want to seek a bachelor’s degree.
Classes from regional campuses of our state flagships don’t even transfer well into the flagship campus…our legislators constantly lament our state’s abysmal college graduation rate, yet do little to change these systemic problems…smh
Maryland has a nice website that includes transfer information for CC students not only for the public Us, but also for some of the private 4-years in that state: http://artsys.usmd.edu/
@austinmshauri here’s some more information about the SUNY seamless transfer plan
https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2015/08/26/suny-guarantees-seamless-transfer
“Starting this fall, SUNY is guaranteeing that students can transfer from a community college with all of their general education requirements and courses toward their major to and from any SUNY campus.”
I only know of the one where my son goes to school in Rochester NY for engineering. Monroe Community college has a Univ of Rochester transfer arrangement.
It may be major dependent for other schools so there may not be a flat out answer.
Connecticut has recently streamlined their process.
I think Florida does it well too (gasp!). Our CC’s also use the same course numbering system as the universities (think it’s mandated by state law).
Florida has focused on community colleges as places where you can get certifications which fold into AAs or AS which can fold into a BA or BS (though AA is the only “sure” pathway to the bachelor’s degree).
Santa Fe CC has a great transfer rate to UF.
Closer to me, Palm Beach State has many seminars every year on how to transfer smoothly to FAU, UCF, etc.
I know several people (in their 50’s) who traveled the CC to University of Maryland, College Park path. They all say they never took any standardized exams because there is a specific process. All were grateful for the CC-CP agreements.
I apologize if this is unrelated but is it normal to want to transfer from a state university to a smaller college?
@aishwar6 since your question is a different topic you should start a new thread. There is nothing wrong with going from bigger to smaller if it better meets a student’s academic, social and/or financial needs.
@goldensrock I actually do have a thread - would you mind checking it out? I really would like some advice! http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/1813217-transfer.html#latest
KS has expanded and standardized its CC transfer credits this year, with 56 classes offered at various community colleges now accepted at all 4-year public universities throughout the state (and tranferable between CCs and technical colleges, too). http://kansasregents.org/transfer_articulation
The link provided by @emilybee doesn’t mention Georgia at all, yet all Georgia’s public colleges and universities, both two and four year institutions, are part of the University System of Georgia. Transfers are straightforward and common.
The replies indicate that good CC->university transfer paths are common among various states, not just in California.
Yet it is common to see posters with extremely disdainful attitudes toward the CC->university transfer path, or CCs in general. Perhaps they live in the exception states where the CC->university transfer path is poorly developed. If so, which states are those?
Wisconsin has had a vocational and technology system forever. Now some are using these schools to take prerequisites for a four year college instead of learning a trade/profession. Originally these schools were never meant as a transition. Now Madison’s MATC (Madison Area Technical College- same letters for the Milwaukee one) has become Madison College I hear (I moved OOS) and serves as a lower cost option. Wisconsin has had a system of many other four year universities. The link lists three of the UW system four year schools, none of the AA or other credentials schools. A student can apply to transfer from any UW system school to the flagship in Madison. There is no CC system in Wisconsin that I am aware of, despite the recent attempts to do so for MATC.
What do other states do to educate/train residents for noncollege jobs that require post HS educations? Do their students need to go to private/for profit schools?
Education for jobs that need post-HS education but not a bachelor’s degree is offered at public community colleges, at least in California. Yes, this means that the public community colleges serve students who have various different goals.
Private (including for-profit) colleges also offer education for these types of goals.
In your opinion, is a cc like IUPUI good quality compared to a university like IU?
South Carolina.